ffs do we really have to turn yet another thread that's nothing to do with the bloke into a clough debate?

as for wigan, it's nothing new. they offer something different that the other sides. rather like hull last year they're capable of kicking you to bits to win the game. I for one am hoping they don't finish in the top 6 as I can't stand that brand of football. they are an effective team though, no doubt about it.