No flower of Scotland

[Footnote]

Anyway, this debate was going on before the papers, the TA board has an interesting discussion going on regarding this issue.

It's not greetin, it's the consqeuences sinking in and considering what happens from here.

[CB_1874]

You lost in a democratic vote and no amount of mopery & greetin' is gonny change that. Deal with it.

Yawn. Some things are bigger than a "democratic" vote, my nation being free is one of them. I don't need anyone's permission to fight for that.[/quote]

No they're not.

[Nevermore666]

Anyone who says "freedom" needs their balls booted.

[scoobydhoo1]

55% of our country voted not to be a country.

Why are we treated as a country in certain sports when our own people don't see us as a country?

45% do

Quebec got a higher vote for their referendum [/quote]

Quebec's last referendum with a 93% turnout at the polling station was seperated by just 1.2 %.

They were also giving false promises on both their referendums and are already thinking about a 3rd referendum,they actually WANT to be a country.

Also the concacaf and African football federeations are once again going to question why Scotland,wales n Ireland and England all have international teams but controlled by the same government.
All the football federations give sepp blatter their support other than Europe,the FA's within the brittish isles have been critical of blatter,THEY better hope he doesn't get re-elected.

[Red_Zeppelin]

55% of our country voted not to be a country.

Why are we treated as a country in certain sports when our own people don't see us as a country?

45% do

Quebec got a higher vote for their referendum [/quote]

Quebec's last referendum with a 93% turnout at the polling station was seperated by just 1.2 %.

They were also giving false promises on both their referendums and are already thinking about a 3rd referendum,they actually WANT to be a country.

Also the concacaf and African football federeations are once again going to question why Scotland,wales n Ireland and England all have international teams but controlled by the same government.
All the football federations give sepp blatter their support other than Europe,the FA's within the brittish isles have been critical of blatter,THEY better hope he doesn't get re-elected.[/quote]

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[scoobydhoo1]

55% of our country voted not to be a country.

Why are we treated as a country in certain sports when our own people don't see us as a country?

45% do

Quebec got a higher vote for their referendum [/quote]

Quebec's last referendum with a 93% turnout at the polling station was seperated by just 1.2 %.

They were also giving false promises on both their referendums and are already thinking about a 3rd referendum,they actually WANT to be a country.

Also the concacaf and African football federeations are once again going to question why Scotland,wales n Ireland and England all have international teams but controlled by the same government.
All the football federations give sepp blatter their support other than Europe,the FA's within the brittish isles have been critical of blatter,THEY be

[HB]

You lost in a democratic vote and no amount of mopery & greetin' is gonny change that. Deal with it.

Yes lost the vote and no won. Thats right and I totaly accept that. However things move on, nothing stands still - and you have to deal with that.

[AguyIknow]

It'll be very interesting to see if the timetable for the Pledge is adhered to. The initial milestone was minor but has passed with no action from WM.


Westminster has about 4 months to get its act in order if it intends to (some doubt WM intends to).

We can wait and see what transpires. If nothing does then many of the 55% will, or at least should, feel very stupid.

[HB]

It'll be very interesting to see if the timetable for the Pledge is adhered to. The initial milestone was minor but has passed with no action from WM.


Westminster has about 4 months to get its act in order if it intends to (some doubt WM intends to).

We can wait and see what transpires. If nothing does then many of the 55% will, or at least should, feel very stupid.

It's already become about England. I dont believe the first milestone was minor, It was the setting out of the timetable. Without that it will drag on.

We had Dominic Raab saying on Sunday that the vow wont go forward and that he thought the Vow meant nothing - he actually said he felt is probably persuaded more voters to go to Yes so didnt mean anything with regards the outcome of the referendum.

Anyone, Yes or No voters, not concerned about this, simply doesnt have Scotland's interest at heart.

[steviex]

It'll be very interesting to see if the timetable for the Pledge is adhered to. The initial milestone was minor but has passed with no action from WM.


Westminster has about 4 months to get its act in order if it intends to (some doubt WM intends to).

We can wait and see what transpires. If nothing does then many of the 55% will, or at least should, feel very stupid.

Wont make the slightest differencete NO have lied on every prediction / pledge for 35yrs the Vow could be binned and the English tories could sh1te on us from the greatest height and we will merely accept it and ask for more.