That "goal"

[tomsdubs]

No goal, no advantage can be played when issuing a straight red card. Ref did know what he was doing.

[ellafella]

I wasnt sure what happened but the rules are if the ref blows for the foul then it has to be disallowed and if that was case then correct decision.

i take whats said about not allowing the advantage but the ref is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, seeing an incident like that the instinct is to blow at once so I ahve some sympathy for the guy.

...except he gave the goal. Clearly signalled it. Derby and crowd celebrate. Then changed his mind.

[DerbyBoy16]

No goal, no advantage can be played when issuing a straight red card. Ref did know what he was doing.

So then why did he signal for a goal?

[tomsdubs]

No goal, no advantage can be played when issuing a straight red card. Ref did know what he was doing.

So then why did he signal for a goal?[/quote]

I didn't see that, when the highlights go up i'll watch it back.

[RamFromCornwall]

I've watched the highlights through on YouTube again, and it must be for a hand outside the box, which in my experience is always a yellow?

It didn't stop a goalscoring opportunity - we scored. He wasn't exactly the last man, there were two other defenders level with Ward and closer to the goal than Camp before the ball had hit the back of the net.

The right decision should have been to give the goal, and book Camp for handling outside the box or taking Ward down in the collision. Not really sure why the goal was disallowed and not really sure why Camp got a red.

He was probably relieved, playing in front of the South Stand it's probably not the first time he's been passionately abused from behind.

[tomsdubs]

Did the linesman have any input?

[ellafella]

Did the linesman have any input?

Didn't move a muscle.

Ref fouled up. A "literal" interpretation of the rules when what was needed was a decision in the spirit of the game. What a shame too many referees have never kicked a ball in their life.

[swaledale]

Did the linesman have any input?

Didn't move a muscle.

Ref fouled up. A "literal" interpretation of the rules when what was needed was a decision in the spirit of the game. What a shame too many referees have never kicked a ball in their life. [/quote]


How can you have a "literal" interpretation of the rules? IF and I didn't see whether he did or not, the ref blew his whistle for the foul he cannot then change that decision and award a goal - the decision to play advantage has to be made at the time the foul occurs.

i note other posters say that the ref ndicated a goal, which does potn to some inconsistency in decision making, maybe the 4th official reminded him through the earpiece that as he had already blown for a freekick he couldnt give the goal?

Fans want consistency in refs decisions which means that as far as is possible when you have human beings and not automatons in c

[RAMAWAY]

Most Referees would like to play in the spirit o the game bu get judged and assessed on applying law and face consequences if this doesn't happen. Having blown straight away for the hand-ball the game was dead and the goal could not have stood.
Think he showed a human side by then pointing to the centre circle for a goal which as i said in an earlier post was his mistake in terms of confusion and then rightly changing his mind in terms of law (as the ball was dead)

If he had waited a few seconds before blowing his whistle for the hand-ball I do beleive he would have given the goal.

[ellafella]

Most Referees would like to play in the spirit o the game bu get judged and assessed on applying law and face consequences if this doesn't happen. Having blown straight away for the hand-ball the game was dead and the goal could not have stood.
Think he showed a human side by then pointing to the centre circle for a goal which as i said in an earlier post was his mistake in terms of confusion and then rightly changing his mind in terms of law (as the ball was dead)

If he had waited a few seconds before blowing his whistle for the hand-ball I do beleive he would have given the goal.

Camp's handball offence occurred about 1-2 seconds before the ball hit the net (check it out on Ramsplayer)The offence was in the same passage of play. The ref could quite easily have given the goal and to give the goal would have been exactly the right decision. Instead he decided in the ensuing moments of confusion to go by the book (a "litera