Laws of the Game

[wristslasher_909]

I have never seen a penalty given as you have just described.

i.e. playing on, seeing if a goal gets get scored, and then if the chance is squandered awarding a penalty.

We need a referee here to give clarification. A friend of mine is a referee and indeed head of referees in the East Midlands - I'll give him a ring!

[su4eranio]

I have never seen a penalty given as you have just described.

i.e. playing on, seeing if a goal gets get scored, and then if the chance is squandered awarding a penalty.

We need a referee here to give clarification. A friend of mine is a referee and indeed head of referees in the East Midlands - I'll give him a ring!

OK, but isnt exactly what I described what happened in the lead up to the freekick from which McGugan scored? Its irrelevant if the final outcome is a freekick or a penalty

[wristslasher_909]

My referee mate has agreed with you. His favoured course of action is to play on for a few seconds to see what happens. Then if the player (Bent for example) misses he can give the penalty and maybe book the keeper for dangerous play.

He says he would try to keep 11 on the pitch.

What happened on Saturday is the ref seeing the dangerous play/denying goalscoring opportunity and blowing early. Once he's blown his whistle he has to give the penalty and send him off.

I have never seen what you have described actually happen. Have you?

Refs always seem to give a penalty and send the player off.

I only learned that free kicks for offside were indirect last year though. I've not been paying attention for the last 34 years.

[dcfcdavecov]

I think this refers to an advantage being played after someone has kicked out, for example, because there is a goal scoring opportunity on, but the player needs sending off. I think this comes under misconduct and is a different rule to denying a goal scoring opportunity. Two separate offences.

I'm still sure that a goal scoring opportunity being denied is an instant red and the play has to stop.

Other examples would be a two-footed challenge followed by a goal scoring opportunity. Advantage can be played, and the player sent off. Misconduct is a separate rule - or at least it was

[Toggles]

Where does the advantage end tho.

For me, if you've allowed play to go on and the player (Bent in this case) gets a shot away, unhamperred, then whether he scores or not is irrelevant??

As someone on another thread said, If McGugan had his attempt on goal, after Will's foul, should it really have been pulled back for a free kick? The foul obviously didn't affect the player enough to stop his goal scoring opportunity?

[Andy_Faber]

Where does the advantage end tho.

For me, if you've allowed play to go on and the player (Bent in this case) gets a shot away, unhamperred, then whether he scores or not is irrelevant??

As someone on another thread said, If McGugan had his attempt on goal, after Will's foul, should it really have been pulled back for a free kick? The foul obviously didn't affect the player enough to stop his goal scoring opportunity?

From my admittedly limited coaching, re Bent yes its irrelevant and re McGugan no it shouldn't

[swaledale]

My referee mate has agreed with you. His favoured course of action is to play on for a few seconds to see what happens. Then if the player (Bent for example) misses he can give the penalty and maybe book the keeper for dangerous play.

He says he would try to keep 11 on the pitch.

What happened on Saturday is the ref seeing the dangerous play/denying goalscoring opportunity and blowing early. Once he's blown his whistle he has to give the penalty and send him off.

I have never seen what you have described actually happen. Have you?

Refs always seem to give a penalty and send the player off.

I only learned that free kicks for offside were indirect last year though. I've not been paying attention for the last 34 years.

He could also ahve allowed advantage and then shown a red card for serious foul play.