The SFA and Moral Authority

[DeezAreGood]

A morally-bankrupt individual criticising a morally-bankrupt organisation, that's good.

Comparing real human suffering with the 'suffering' endured by hvns not allowed to sing sectarian-hate songs, not so good.

Hibs/Motherwell, the people of Scotland are looking to you. You know what to do.

[John65]

Well said Sir Walter (did I really just write that?) and Stewarty.

Would be well done if he wasn't still cheering the appointment of someone with 41 fraud convictions to the board of his team...
Can't be doing with hypocrisy, regardless of whether the point is well made or not.

[AguyIknow]

John, I call it as I see it. I don't often agree with Sir Walter, who regularly seems mad as a box of frogs, but in this case I think he has a good point and makes it well. As did Stewartie with the lyrics.

It's just my opinion but I don't think one should criticise all the actions of a man, be they good or bad, just because some of his actions are bad.

Neither do I think all The Rangers fans are de facto bad people, but there again it seems I disagree with you.

[DeezAreGood]

The SFA lost all moral authority in the summer of 2012 when they allowed Charles Green to dictate to Scottish football, forcing the farcical Club 12 situation which saw cannon fodder promoted to the SOL at the last minute. The SFA spent the summer trying to bully clubs into accepting Sevco into the top league, then the 2nd tier, then finally the 4th tier, when the club chairmen stood firm. How many threads did walther start about that?

[John65]

John, I call it as I see it. I don't often agree with Sir Walter, who regularly seems mad as a box of frogs, but in this case I think he has a good point and makes it well. As did Stewartie with the lyrics.

It's just my opinion but I don't think one should criticise all the actions of a man, be they good or bad, just because some of his actions are bad.

Neither do I think all The Rangers fans are de facto bad people, but there again it seems I disagree with you.

I don't criticise all his actions - I just think that the thing of which he is guilty is too close to that which he is condemning to make it a credible statement.
You cannot cheer the SFA for their repellant actions one minute, then condemn them for another repellant action five minutes later. It just doesn't hold water.
As for the hu[size=3]ns - when I meet a decent one I might change my mind but let's face it - it's unlikely

[DeezAreGood]

I see the right-wing imbecile who started this thread hasn't been back on to give extra weight to the pish he was spouting about the suffering of the Chilean people being on a par with his horrible fascist self not being able to sing about sectarian murderers.

Buffy_The_Class_Betrayer, an utter disgrace.

[Sir_Walter_Timslayer]

Load, take aim, pull trigger, fire and ...





Totally miss the point.



Nobody is saying that Qatar is better or worse than Apartheid South Africa. Nor in turn saying that either are better or worse than Pinochet's Chile. Nor in turn that any of these are better or worse than Naz1 Germany.

There have been some moral lows in the world of football. Many too many to properly evaluate them all on here. Or to score petty points over them.

However, IMHO, something in football took an irreversible turn when we signed up for the WC in Qatar. Probably the single most immoral act taken anywhere in football to date, certainly worse than anything that's happened in Scottish football. And it's only marginally worse than the decision the same day to take the next world cup to the morally backward nationalist abyss that is Russia.

So if you think it's ok to cheer your team in the World Cup in Qatar then do so. And indeed the qualifying competitions. I have no problem with that. That in itself i

[Sir_Walter_Timslayer]

Not for the first time, Sir Walter's Teachings prove incisive and timely.

Will next week's tawdry charade now be cancelled to save the embarrassment for all concerned?

[bluek]

John, I call it as I see it. I don't often agree with Sir Walter, who regularly seems mad as a box of frogs, but in this case I think he has a good point and makes it well. As did Stewartie with the lyrics.

It's just my opinion but I don't think one should criticise all the actions of a man, be they good or bad, just because some of his actions are bad.

Neither do I think all The Rangers fans are de facto bad people, but there again it seems I disagree with you.

Atimiknow if I can give you my experience discussing issues Rangers related with sarto

It really all depends on what game he wants to play. He can come across as fairly intelligent and will engage in sensible debate when it suits him, but then he decides to let the ignorant bigot out and you get the type of statements he's posted on this thread. He can't help it.
Bit of a shame really cos he can be an ok poster but ruins it with irrational prejudice imo.

[CB_1874]

[quote="spameater1"]September the eleventh
In Nineteen seventy-three
Scores of people perished
In a vile machine-gun spree
Santiago stadium
Became a place to kill
But a Scottish football team
Will grace it with their skill
And there's blood upon the grass
And there's blood upon the grass

Will you go there, Alan Rough
Will you play there, Tom Forsyth
Where so many folk met early
The Grim Reaper with his scythe
These people weren't terrorists
They weren't Party hacks
But some were maybe goalkeepers
And some were centre backs
And there's blood upon the grass
And there's blood upon the grass

Victor Jara played guitar
As he was led into the ground
Then they broke all of his fingers
So his strings no more could sound
Still he kept on singing
Songs of freedom, songs of peace
And though they gunned him down
His message doesn't cease
And there's blood upon the grass
And there's blood upon the grass

Will you go there,