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Thread: Achievements part 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    In percentage terms, how much has the SNP spent on increasing the NHS budget in relation to how much they received due to Barnett consequentials?
    There is no requirement on any Scottish government to follow any increases on spending in England and Wales and apply that to the services they are required to deliver in Scotland. The Barnett Formula is used to calculate what is called the Scottish Block; as in a total amount from which the Scottish Government makes their own decisions regarding the funding to be allocated to the services required by the country. If they wanted they could spend the total received on Education only. It would be insane but it is up to the government of the day to decide. This is not a new thing as the same thing happened before devolution with the Scottish Secretary and Scottish ministers allocating amounts from the Scottish Block. Sorry, just had to offer this for accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    PS you must be really excited about part 2 of the achievements. I know walloper is.
    sure am. but you can see where the issue is, expensive, populist policies, sounds great. then you have these huge sums which aren't being covered by the Scottish budget. they have to get a balance if they want a Yes vote next time.

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    Yet another plaudit. From today's Scotsman. Aye a ken the Unionist Scotsman !!!!!


    http://www.scotsman.com/news/scottis...n-uk-1-4293750

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    Interesting article, contradicts bodie in quite a lot of areas, wonder where he gets his info for

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed_Scottishfitba1 View Post
    There is no requirement on any Scottish government to follow any increases on spending in England and Wales and apply that to the services they are required to deliver in Scotland. The Barnett Formula is used to calculate what is called the Scottish Block; as in a total amount from which the Scottish Government makes their own decisions regarding the funding to be allocated to the services required by the country. If they wanted they could spend the total received on Education only. It would be insane but it is up to the government of the day to decide. This is not a new thing as the same thing happened before devolution with the Scottish Secretary and Scottish ministers allocating amounts from the Scottish Block. Sorry, just had to offer this for accuracy.
    Have they increased spending in percentage terms in line with increased funding due to RUK increased spending on the NHS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    These are actually Facts Walloper I invite you to disprove them.












    No I didn't think so.
    I won't.

    Not any more than I can disprove the Tories’ claim they are spending record amounts on disability benefits

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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    Have they increased spending in percentage terms in line with increased funding due to RUK increased spending on the NHS?
    Sorry I have no idea but they don't have to if they don't want to. However, as Scotland has a history of poor health duea number of factors I would be very surprised to read if the funding for NHS Scotland has not increased in real terms and percentage terms over the years. Nearly 50% (£12.9bn) of the Scottish Block funding made available for 2016-17 was allocated to NHS Scotland. Check from page 165 of the linked Expenditure plans (http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0049/00491140.pdf) which provides government spending figures from 2008-09 to 2016-17 over all the different services they oversee. Health is the number one line in the tables. I will leave it to you to find the equivalent document and tables for England and Wales. They have to publish this kind of document each year with the 2016-17 edition due out next month. I hope this is helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed_Scottishfitba1 View Post
    Sorry I have no idea but they don't have to if they don't want to. However, as Scotland has a history of poor health duea number of factors I would be very surprised to read if the funding for NHS Scotland has not increased in real terms and percentage terms over the years. Nearly 50% (£12.9bn) of the Scottish Block funding made available for 2016-17 was allocated to NHS Scotland. Check from page 165 of the linked Expenditure plans (http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0049/00491140.pdf) which provides government spending figures from 2008-09 to 2016-17 over all the different services they oversee. Health is the number one line in the tables. I will leave it to you to find the equivalent document and tables for England and Wales. They have to publish this kind of document each year with the 2016-17 edition due out next month. I hope this is helpful.
    Ger

    the 2016-2017 is already out well in draft form. http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0049/00491140.pdf. A quick shufty through it. Looks like the budget has increased 1.7 in real terms.. So front line services will be maintained at the very the very least. You've also got to remember these priorities are being delivered against the backdrop of the UK Government cutting
    the Scottish Government’s fiscal DEL budget in real terms by 12.5 per cent between
    2010-11 and 2019-20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewarty27 View Post
    Ger

    the 2016-2017 is already out well in draft form. http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0049/00491140.pdf. A quick shufty through it. Looks like the budget has increased 1.7 in real terms.. So front line services will be maintained at the very the very least. You've also got to remember these priorities are being delivered against the backdrop of the UK Government cutting
    the Scottish Government’s fiscal DEL budget in real terms by 12.5 per cent between
    2010-11 and 2019-20.
    Finger on the pulse. Any Scottish governmwent can only do what they prioritise with funding made available via Barnett Formula as long as it stays in place. I think Northern Ireland actually gets more per head using the Barnett Formula - I know they used to but my eye has been off spending for a while now

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    That's not true, is it. The Scottish government has had tax-raising powers since day one. But it's correct to say the North of Ireland is a complete basket-case due to the high proportion of criminals and gangsters who run the place.
    Last edited by Taintedice; 19-11-2016 at 01:17 PM.

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