I dont think Warne can stay

[lbj]

That doesn't sound like "a cunning plan"

This is why:

I think we need someone now that can take us all the way back and back with confidence.

Warnsey has never managed - and definitely not successfully in the championship.

We need someone to pull us up to his level - keeping Warne is a sign of capitulation.

[mellowmiller]

That doesn't sound like "a cunning plan"

This is why:

I think we need someone now that can take us all the way back and back with confidence.

Warnsey has never managed - and definitely not successfully in the championship.

We need someone to pull us up to his level - keeping Warne is a sign of capitulation.

The capitulation started when Tony Stewart chose not to appoint a proven manager after Kenny Jackett walked away.
The club has become a laughing stock and the chairman has just stood back and allowed our Championship status to fizzle out like a damp squib.
Tony Stewart says he has made mistakes, fair enough, but he hasn't learnt from them and steadfastly refuses to bring anyone onto the board with football knowledge. Consequently the same old mistakes will continue to be made until he accepts that he needs help.

[millertop]

I fear Warne will come out bad out of this.

If he stays as Manager it won't end well and if he goes back to the fitness side don't think it will end well.

UTM

Manager = bad for Warney

Fitness coach or coach = good for Warney

He knows this and probably can't wait until end of season when it's all over with and he can go back to doing what he's does well.

Warm up against Villa, guess where Warney was...

[lbj]

Totally agree Mellow - KJ walking was the straw that broke ......etc....

So TS gave PW the job so he could totally rethink his strategy in private while the spotlight is on Warnsey.

Your right - KJ walking was the point where the "capitulation" occurred....on hindsight my point is more serious - if he keeps Warnsey - TS has given up !

Then the post-mortem examination on this season will really start !

[Monkey46]

Errrrr the capitulation occurred when Evo left ffs. How fkin blind are some people?

[Ellis_D]

Errrrr the capitulation occurred when Evo left ffs. How fkin blind are some people?

Definitely. That was the beginning of the end for us in the Championship. He took us there and kept us there.

[lbj]

EVO leaving wasn't a capitulation at all - that was an unexplained incident. But we developed a new battle plan to go forward.

We started this season with a plan 'A' that was another NR "project" - but obviously with AS. That plan really should have been supported for the first window at least - although a "three year project" is a "three year project" !

AS ( and his team ) were good enough to learn the lessons of this season and we'd be far better off now with AS and his team still with us - fighting for survival or planning for next year.

But TS panicked - and I still think anti-social media ( including MM ) is culpable!

But at this stage......TS was still fighting - and wanted KJ to fight for him - he pushed the boat out to get KJ - to attract him to a God awful job but KJ let him down badly !

KJ's resignation was the point of capitulation because it knocked the fight out of TS.

The constraints that AS was working with were not made clear untill later - ( with the 60% of budget already allocated .etc ) But KJ leaving must have broken TS's spirit - and as he knew ......
( and didn't fancy ) the previous applicants - he turned to Warne.

The rest is history....but with all TS has invested and his ambition - he MUST have someone either in post or on a promise for next season.....

That is - if TS has any ambition left ?