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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    He knows we're due a huge amount of money from the tv deal so to ensure we don't struggle he needs to release the funds now in the knowledge that he'll get it back. Folk can make all the positive noises they like about our new signings but you'd be hard pushed to say we had a strong squad. Is it adequate? Only time will tell but it's going to be a lot harder than it should be because of our under-investment.
    We've already had the first payment of £35 mill off Sky,its in yhe bank.Its paid in installments and not at the end of the season..
    We must be waiting till Jan,when nobody decent is up for sale and the ones who are up for sale,are shoite and overpriced...

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    hmmm to the doubters, those who think rafa is whingeing"

    quite simply, starkly said - anyone who thinks ashley told rafa the truth wants their heads examining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toonlegend View Post
    hmmm to the doubters, those who think rafa is whingeing"

    quite simply, starkly said - anyone who thinks ashley told rafa the truth wants their heads examining.
    so how has he lied

    how much does the club generate

    how much is wages from non playing staff .rent on the ground ,upkeep of the training ground ,wages for coaches,wages for development squad,.
    and so on

    the truth is the club owes ash millions

    he was honest he said all money generated

    rafa got rid of carr and had no back up plan or no clubs for the players he wants gone

    seems to me rafa might be a decent manager but running all things footy is completly different ie running the club

    he has been used to clubs willing to trade in the red ,he hasnt had to worry about wages ,fees etc etc

    he aint a modern day manager
    he plays negative footy in a time when everyone else is playing attacking footy

    he is geting his moans in before it falls around him and his players

    i think we will win today
    but it will be interesting to see how he adapts to prem fotty and the huddersfield manager does in tactics etc etc

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    I actually think we could have done well if it wasn't for some selfish mercenaries....the fact that Ashley is a complete and utter ****e isn't going to change the reality...

    Some of these idiot mercenaries should have left the moment Rafa told them they're not part of his plans...

    Lazaar
    Hanley
    Krul (although I quite liked him)
    Colback
    Saivet
    Haidara
    Riviere

    All these would free up £300k per week and allow for some good loan signing...you could offer 3 quality player £100k a week on loan basis just for the year...

    I think Rafa has realised that Ashley won't do anything even if we are relegated. He has reached a point where he won't pump and more money in and the biggest fear is that if we get relegated again....he won't bank roll the club...and the shoe string championship budget will be a nightmare....we're in big trouble if we don't survive this season...the only positive is next years fresh tv rights income

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogz_86 View Post
    I actually think we could have done well if it wasn't for some selfish mercenaries....the fact that Ashley is a complete and utter ****e isn't going to change the reality...

    Some of these idiot mercenaries should have left the moment Rafa told them they're not part of his plans...

    Lazaar
    Hanley
    Krul (although I quite liked him)
    Colback
    Saivet
    Haidara
    Riviere

    and allow for some good loan signing...you could offer 3 quality player £100k a week on loan basis just for the year...

    U seem to forget we have Ashley as owner, even if we had 500 grand a week spare he wouldn't pay any player 100 grand a week
    .

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    Quote Originally Posted by gogz_86 View Post
    I actually think we could have done well if it wasn't for some selfish mercenaries....the fact that Ashley is a complete and utter ****e isn't going to change the reality...

    Some of these idiot mercenaries should have left the moment Rafa told them they're not part of his plans...

    Lazaar
    Hanley
    Krul (although I quite liked him)
    Colback
    Saivet
    Haidara
    Riviere

    All these would free up £300k per week and allow for some good loan signing...you could offer 3 quality player £100k a week on loan basis just for the year...

    I think Rafa has realised that Ashley won't do anything even if we are relegated. He has reached a point where he won't pump and more money in and the biggest fear is that if we get relegated again....he won't bank roll the club...and the shoe string championship budget will be a nightmare....we're in big trouble if we don't survive this season...the only positive is next years fresh tv rights income
    And we have to be sure of staying up to be involved with that. Left to Ashley and Charnley that can't be guaranteed.

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    He said he would put £20 million of his OWN money into the club each season. Also, did anyone notice he said we were back to square one in his Sky love-in ? Does that mean another five year plan ?

    Ah love five year plans me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal View Post
    He said he would put £20 million of his OWN money into the club each season. Also, did anyone notice he said we were back to square one in his Sky love-in ? Does that mean another five year plan ?

    Ah love five year plans me.
    I thought that was what it was Kal.

    it's a great pity he hasn't honoured his obligations each season as by now he would have a club in an established position and a very saleable commodity as well as this his £20 million investment would have shown him great returns instead of two relegations an five fights against relegation.

    Not much foresight for a successful businessman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ex_pat_magpie View Post
    I thought that was what it was Kal.

    it's a great pity he hasn't honoured his obligations each season as by now he would have a club in an established position and a very saleable commodity as well as this his £20 million investment would have shown him great returns instead of two relegations an five fights against relegation.

    Not much foresight for a successful businessman.
    he certainly hasnt taken any out

    and i would think with covering the loans etc he has put close to that in if not more

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    Quote Originally Posted by pboromag View Post
    he certainly hasnt taken any out

    and i would think with covering the loans etc he has put close to that in if not more
    You are talking about £220million over the time he has been here. Add on to that the benefit of the free advertising Sports Direct Tat gets here and exposure on TV. The interest on the loans would be peanuts out of that. Any businessman would tell you that.

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