how much more of this sh173 do we have to put up with

[HughieG]

this season has been a bore

You've been a bore all season and continue to be.

[BenArfa10]

last season was a bore we crawled over the line ...just after spending millions and having a supposably world class manager in the fizzy

this season has been a bore

rafa is meant to be world class and working to a master plan
and for those that have the ability to copy and paste actally think they know what his master plan is

he will sort the defence out they say

really !!!!!!!!!

he cant even defend agains the likes of burnley and other so called small teams

today he was given a lesson by a world class manager

last game he was gien a lesson by a young pup

rafa world class
my arse


if we loose to watford
which im hoping we wont
i just cant wait to hear the geordie nation turn on him
they will be turning the flags around and using them a badly spelt banners

im just gladthere are 3 worst teams (just ) than us

if i was spending 350 mill on a club id want a manager showing more progression than rafa

get a life man

[Curian]

Whilst I think that at times, pboromag does come out with good stuff, definitely controversial stuff and the occasional incisiveness observation, without a decent alternative to Rafa, it falls on deaf ears.

Rafa as said, regardless of what he may or may not have done, is honest in his analysis of the team. You cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear. He obviously sees things we do not, as we are not privy. At times he baffles us with his choices and formations but you cannot deny the man's intelligence, experience and knowledge of the game.

Twelve games in and he is starting to mix and match due to injuries or other circumstances. A third of the way through and we seem to be solid but lacking in the goal count. Yesterday against ManU, I expected nothing more than what we got, given the squad we have and there is more pain to come against the top 6.

pboromag, in my view seems to have appeared to forget that last year he needed a team to get us out of the Championship (as many on here have mentioned), so to a certain extent Rafa got stuck re transfers due to either financial constraints or slowness in moving in the transfer market for this year. No magic money tree!

I still have faith and whilst I believe that apart from Watford our next 2/3 games are unwinnable, we should survive and next year, with new owners, hopefully, we will rebuild. Setting aside Ashley's help and hindrance, he admits he has had enough, he cannot take us forward so we cannot dwell on his tenure but must look to the future and hope it comes soon.

I could go on but will stop there for the time being.

[occult]

My concern is that if the takeover isn't completed early enough to provide funds for the Jan transfer window we could be dragged into a relegation battle. I don't think that any team from Newcastle downwards is safe. We are below both the teams promoted with us. What makes me smile is that NUFC fans are often criticised for having unrealistic expectations. We seem to have gone to the opposite pole, desperately trying to pick positives from a 1-4 defeat. I wonder how many fans of other PL clubs would do that. I'm sure that if we got beat 0-5 by Man City some would console themselves by saying 'at least we had two shots at goal.' There's clearly a limit to what Rafa can do with a mediocre squad. Getting beat by Man U doesn't worry me too much but getting beat by Burnley and Bournemouth is a different thing.

[toptoon]

My concern is that if the takeover isn't completed early enough to provide funds for the Jan transfer window we could be dragged into a relegation battle. I don't think that any team from Newcastle downwards is safe. We are below both the teams promoted with us. What makes me smile is that NUFC fans are often criticised for having unrealistic expectations. We seem to have gone to the opposite pole, desperately trying to pick positives from a 1-4 defeat. I wonder how many fans of other PL clubs would do that. I'm sure that if we got beat 0-5 by Man City some would console themselves by saying 'at least we had two shots at goal.' There's clearly a limit to what Rafa can do with a mediocre squad. Getting beat by Man U doesn't worry me too much but getting beat by Burnley and Bournemouth is a different thing.

Same here - I was hugely disappointed after the Bournemouth game but am not today. Bournemouth are a competitor for relegation with us this season and we were at home.
It wasn´t the last minute goal so much (when they scored, my first reaction was - well done, you deserved that) it was the way we played in the second half. We were out played and looked knackered.

Any point against the top six is a massive bonus (home or away) but we must dispose of the likes of Brighton and Huddersfield at home if we are to survive.

[Zippity]

Interesting point, that. Last two games the second half has been in marked contrast to the first.

[pboromag]

Whilst I think that at times, pboromag does come out with good stuff, definitely controversial stuff and the occasional incisiveness observation, without a decent alternative to Rafa, it falls on deaf ears.

Rafa as said, regardless of what he may or may not have done, is honest in his analysis of the team. You cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear. He obviously sees things we do not, as we are not privy. At times he baffles us with his choices and formations but you cannot deny the man's intelligence, experience and knowledge of the game.

Twelve games in and he is starting to mix and match due to injuries or other circumstances. A third of the way through and we seem to be solid but lacking in the goal count. Yesterday against ManU, I expected nothing more than what we got, given the squad we have and there is more pain to come against the top 6.

pboromag, in my view seems to have appeared to forget that last year he needed a team to get us out of the Championship (as many on here have mentioned), so to a certain extent Rafa got stuck re transfers due to either financial constraints or slowness in moving in the transfer market for this year. No magic money tree!

I still have faith and whilst I believe that apart from Watford our next 2/3 games are unwinnable, we should survive and next year, with new owners, hopefully, we will rebuild. Setting aside Ashley's help and hindrance, he admits he has had enough, he cannot take us forward so we cannot dwell on his tenure but must look to the future and hope it comes soon.

I could go on but will stop there for the time being.

he brought players to get us out the fizzy and that were good enough for the prem in most cases
added to that that he kept 8-10 players brought for the prem shelvey etc and then the players he brought in the last window
he should be doing a lot better than he is


if you believe he has a master plan

and indeed if you rate him
i dont

and whilst i am confident we wont go down

its not because of the manager
just the same as when we came up last season it wasnt because of rafa

even kinnear would have brought us up last year
and probably playing more attrwctive footy

[Kal]

even kinnear would have brought us up last year
and probably playing more attrwctive footy

Of course he would.

[waalsendmick]

just because ashley isn't prepared to put money in, doesn't mean that money isn't available. if the club has generated it's own money, it will be spent. failure to do so would jeopardise any sale of the club and / or any future profit (should he decide not to sell).

[ex_pat_magpie]

just because ashley isn't prepared to put money in, doesn't mean that money isn't available. if the club has generated it's own money, it will be spent. failure to do so would jeopardise any sale of the club and / or any future profit (should he decide not to sell).

How can Pboro claim Rafa has had the players for two seasons when he's only been here 18 months.

Or is it a case of can't spell as well as can't count. Some businessman.