O/T BBC and the NHS

[TheBlackHorse]

... the predictable attempts by tweedle dum and tweedle dee to twist the topic. So how would you deal with the self-inflicted drink and drug wasters?

[navypie]

... the predictable attempts by tweedle dum and tweedle dee to twist the topic. So how would you deal with the self-inflicted drink and drug wasters?

Hope they could help both of us.

[Elite_Pie]

... the predictable attempts by tweedle dum and tweedle dee to twist the topic. So how would you deal with the self-inflicted drink and drug wasters?

The only person twisting the topic is you. You claim the BBC report is a hatchet job, so tell us where. Give us figures that highlight where they are biased and where they are wrong. Prove to us that the BBC are totally biased and that the Tories are doing a good job in improving the service the NHS offers since they came to power and took control.

As I said to Soccerman, I bet you can't.

[sidders]

... the predictable attempts by tweedle dum and tweedle dee to twist the topic. So how would you deal with the self-inflicted drink and drug wasters?

Here speaks the horse who says it's OK to smoke and doesn't see that as inflicting unnecessary expense on the NHS

[JoePass]

Just as badly as over here. Perhaps you could highlight the NHS improvements the Tories have made over the last 7 years?

Or perhaps you couldn't.

Desperation of the Corbynista, no real answers, just a load of left wing waffle.

[Elite_Pie]

Desperation of the Corbynista, no real answers, just a load of left wing waffle.

So prove me wrong. Simply highlight the NHS improvements the Tories have made over the last 7 years.

I bet you can't.

[BigFatPie]

The billionaires who own a lot of the media and the Tory party hate the BBC because it’s competition, is political neutral and neither they nor their friends get to make money out of it. The same billionaires hate the NHS because neither they nor their friends get to make money out of it.

As we see from this thread, many people who read the publications of those billionaires hate the BBC and NHS because those billionaires tell them to.

[i961pie]

[QUOTE=BigFatPie;38725011]The billionaires who own a lot of the media and the Tory party hate the BBC because it’s competition, is political neutral

Ha ha political neutral, it's the way you tell em.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

Hmmm. I can only go on personal experience, and last year I had my first ever visit to A&E. I'd had a hernia for about 3 years, it only caused me occasional minor discomfort so I ignored it. It began to get a bit more painful so I went to see my GP, who referred me for surgery, where the waiting list was about 20 weeks. A few days later the pain became quite severe. The NHS website listed 4 symptoms where if you had any one of them you should go to A&E - I had 3 of the 4, so off I went to A&E. The Triage nurse was useless, she basically accused me of trying to queue-jump for the op and advised me to go home and take pain killers. I had to argue with her and point out I was in agony until she reluctantly agreed to send me for an assessment at a department next door. It was discovered that the hernia had become incarcerated (possibly life-threatening) and I was immediately admitted and operated on that evening. The rest of the service I received was superb, and I have nothing but praise for the NHS workforce (Triage nurse excepted).

Sorry to hear of your bad experience of a nurse who should not have been so sceptical of your symptoms prior to arranging for a medical assessment to be carried out. She should not have jumped to conclusions without having medical facts in my opinion.

The point I was trying to make with that particular statement was that with competent healthcare professionals and procedures in place, if someone is waiting in A&E for four hours with a life threatening condtion then their has been a severe failure in the system in my opinion.

The nurse in your case probably has seen 100’s of patients and no doubt some turn up with next to nothing wrong with them or trying to play the system to their advantage. It must be annoying and frustrating for the nurse but as in your case she should not tar everyone with the same brush. Hopefully a lesson was learned.

[crazyfists]

I'm in stage four of a kidney disease and the NHS staff and nurses are and have always been since I got ill three years ago, excellent and caring. It's not perfect but no organisation is, especially one of this size. Long live the NHS. As for the BBC, it's OK but alot of it is rubbish although that's down to my taste. Would still keep it though.