Cardiff Away

[Hugh Jerection]

Games need strong referees and a lot of the time incidents are let go. Wolves teams of the past have often been slated for an over physical element. The art of winning the ball with a strong, but fair challenge is slowly dying due to ref's blowing up for a player being caught by the trailing leg or follow through. Cardiff and Preston play to their strengths. Cardiff are where they are on merit in the table and i'm looking forward to the fixture.

Absolutely spot on. Play to your strengths. Your user name may indicate you have been watching football a long time, and like me, you remember when games could be real battles. I'm also looking forward to our game, and you'll be out for revenge. It could be a league record crowd at our new stadium, maybe somewhere around 30k, should be a great atmosphere.

[abbobrom]

Over the years we have had more than our share of hard players, Eddie Clamp springs to mind. I think I am correct in saying that the late great Sir Stanley Matthews refused to play against Wolves if Clamp was in the team. Clamp was an England International so he could play a bit, but he took no prisoners.

However, modern day players have become, not only more skillfull but they have become more expensive to purchase. They help to put bums on seats, they are entertainers, and as such they need some protection from less able players. Play it hard by all means, but play it fair. I recall an incident when one of our most skillfull ever players Peter Knowles had a run in with a certain Dennis Smith who played for Stoke. Knowles was about eigh**** at the time and had just twisted and turned Smith untill the Stoke player was almost giddy. Smith was far from happy that this young upstart had made him look a fool. As Peter walked back past him Smith was reported to have hurled some obsenities at him along the lines of "do that again and I will break your fu..ing legs", befors spitting into the Wolves players face.

Nice if you like that sort of thuggery, but no supporter wants to see the game detioriate to this level.. That sort of thing went out prior to the millenium.

[Hugh Jerection]

Over the years we have had more than our share of hard players, Eddie Clamp springs to mind. I think I am correct in saying that the late great Sir Stanley Matthews refused to play against Wolves if Clamp was in the team. Clamp was an England International so he could play a bit, but he took no prisoners.

However, modern day players have become, not only more skillfull but they have become more expensive to purchase. They help to put bums on seats, they are entertainers, and as such they need some protection from less able players. Play it hard by all means, but play it fair. I recall an incident when one of our most skillfull ever players Peter Knowles had a run in with a certain Dennis Smith who played for Stoke. Knowles was about eigh**** at the time and had just twisted and turned Smith untill the Stoke player was almost giddy. Smith was far from happy that this young upstart had made him look a fool. As Peter walked back past him Smith was reported to have hurled some obsenities at him along the lines of "do that again and I will break your fu..ing legs", befors spitting into the Wolves players face.

Nice if you like that sort of thuggery, but no supporter wants to see the game detioriate to this level.. That sort of thing went out prior to the millenium.

I remember Peter Knowles, he had some great skill. Am I right in saying that he found religion and retired early from the game? And was his brother Cyril, of Spurs?

[abbobrom]

I remember Peter Knowles, he had some great skill. Am I right in saying that he found religion and retired early from the game? And was his brother Cyril, of Spurs?

Yes you are correct, he became involved with a girl who was a Mormon and he started doing the door to door stuff. The club left his kit out for weeks expecting him to return but he never did. He was working in a tile shop and later worked in M&S. His brother was Cyril.

[Evewolf65]

Not in the slightest bit concerned about Cardiff's or Colin's tactics or lack of for this game. All I'm p1ssed off about is Sky F**king up yet another great away day to the extent of me having to book a day off work and book an overnight Hotel stay in the Principality,on the other hand it's a great city for a night on the lash!! C'est la vie!!

[Wolfiebill]

Over the years we have had more than our share of hard players, Eddie Clamp springs to mind. I think I am correct in saying that the late great Sir Stanley Matthews refused to play against Wolves if Clamp was in the team. Clamp was an England International so he could play a bit, but he took no prisoners.

However, modern day players have become, not only more skillfull but they have become more expensive to purchase. They help to put bums on seats, they are entertainers, and as such they need some protection from less able players. Play it hard by all means, but play it fair. I recall an incident when one of our most skillfull ever players Peter Knowles had a run in with a certain Dennis Smith who played for Stoke. Knowles was about eigh**** at the time and had just twisted and turned Smith untill the Stoke player was almost giddy. Smith was far from happy that this young upstart had made him look a fool. As Peter walked back past him Smith was reported to have hurled some obsenities at him along the lines of "do that again and I will break your fu..ing legs", befors spitting into the Wolves players face.

Nice if you like that sort of thuggery, but no supporter wants to see the game detioriate to this level.. That sort of thing went out prior to the millenium.

In more recent times we had Kevin Muscat (not a player I particularly like to remember). I seem to recall that whilst playing for Australia ("in a friendly?") against France, in France? he almost broke Thiery Henry leg? I'm much happier recalling the skills of Peter Knowles! So even in yesteryear there those that had skill and those that employed "very basic" methods in playing their football.

[Evewolf65]

Jeez stop the whinging lads if we're good enough which I think we are we'll win by playing as I know we can. Let's stop the pant wetting over big roughty toughty Cardiff City FFS!!

[wolves71]

I've noticed since Nuno has taken over and listening to gasps and groans in the crowd, a small minority believe the slightest touch, foul, shoulder charge or similar are yellow cards. What doesn't help is we live in a footballing world now where every contested incident is replayed over and over. We can watch a live game on sky or BT and we see replay upon replay, then the pundits and commentators give their opinion and we all also discuss it on various platforms.

Whatever happens in the Cardiff v Wolves game i'll accept and give an opinion on, but i won't class the opposition as thugs. The two sides are chasing the same dream, promotion to the top flight.

[WOODLANDSWOLF]

Mike Bailey was another tough nut, but a great player as well.

[wolves71]

Absolutely spot on. Play to your strengths. Your user name may indicate you have been watching football a long time, and like me, you remember when games could be real battles. I'm also looking forward to our game, and you'll be out for revenge. It could be a league record crowd at our new stadium, maybe somewhere around 30k, should be a great atmosphere.

I think the game has changed a lot since the introduction of the premier league and more and more games being seen by millions of viewers throughout the week and then the weekend. Football has moved on, but i still like to see sides going in for the ball 50/50 and not being pulled up for the excuse of "excessive force". I agree that the skilful players should be able to show what they are made of, but not without an opposition player challenging them.