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Thread: Green Travel Survey - Red Army Set To Go Green

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    Quote Originally Posted by dantpen View Post
    I agree that Busses direct to main street would potentially make it a lot easier for some people. Might even see an increase in attendances too.

    Even if on a Saturday First/Stagecoach ran busses from say Swinton, Thorpe Hesley, Treeton and Maltby this would kind of cover off all 4 sides of Rotherham with stops on the way into town to make more pick ups. Then drop off on Main Street.

    Worth a try, even if it's just 1 bus an hour from 12:30pm until kick off it might get some interest.
    Thank you for your comment Dentpen I will be trying to talk to all local bus and transport operators as part of the project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a123 View Post
    Why is there no mention of electric vehicle charging points as part of this survey?

    It is possible to drive a car and have green credentials.
    Once manufactured and delivered then yes electric cars are “green”

    But the environmental impact of producing the car and it’s batteries, plus the generation of the power in the grid to charge it up makes it less “green”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Once manufactured and delivered then yes electric cars are “green”

    But the environmental impact of producing the car and it’s batteries, plus the generation of the power in the grid to charge it up makes it less “green”
    So manufacturing buses, cycles, trains etc. do not cause similar environmental issues.

    Also there are a growing number of energy companies who only sell electricity that is 100% generated via renewable sources and this will only increase as more renewables come on stream, so it depends who you buy your electricity from upon how green the generation of that electricity is. It's also generally as cheap or cheaper to buy with some of the best deals in the market place been given by these companies.

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    There are buses that go along Main Street,and there are bus stops outside the council offices and the police station near the NYS. The police may close off Main Street for a while on matchdays though. No problem usually at any other time if you are going to the RUFC ticket office/shop.
    Last edited by mikemiller; 06-04-2018 at 12:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a123 View Post
    So manufacturing buses, cycles, trains etc. do not cause similar environmental issues.

    Also there are a growing number of energy companies who only sell electricity that is 100% generated via renewable sources and this will only increase as more renewables come on stream, so it depends who you buy your electricity from upon how green the generation of that electricity is. It's also generally as cheap or cheaper to buy with some of the best deals in the market place been given by these companies.
    No that's the myth at work. The makeup of a battery for an electric car is much more complex and uses metals that are rarer and more difficult to extract than those found in a typical "normal" car battery.

    As for the electricity in the grid, well that's a mixture of sources isn't it? Even those claiming 100% have to use solar panels, windmills etc and those need manufacturing using again scarce resources and energy to manufacture. Recycling of solar panels is also minimal and when done again uses power to do it.

    Don't get me wrong it's a step forward but a lot of the supposed low environmental impact claims is basically bullshine.

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    If it makes us less dependent on oil from the Middle East then that would be a good thing.

    Look at how May is bowing and scraping to the Saudis.

    These crackdowns on "hate speech" are more about stopping any criticism of Islam, at the Saudis bidding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    If it makes us less dependent on oil from the Middle East then that would be a good thing.

    Look at how May is bowing and scraping to the Saudis.

    These crackdowns on "hate speech" are more about stopping any criticism of Islam, at the Saudis bidding.
    Fracking would make us less dependent on Saudi oil but a few nimbys and tree huggers and the whole thing collapses like a stack of cards.

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    Plus the amount if crude oil from the Saudis is quite low.

    OPEC as a whole supplies about a third of our crude oil. Countries in OPEC are Algeria, Angola, Ecuador, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Venezuela. So not all Arab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grist_To_The_Mill View Post
    Plus the amount if crude oil from the Saudis is quite low.

    OPEC as a whole supplies about a third of our crude oil. Countries in OPEC are Algeria, Angola, Ecuador, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Libya, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates and Venezuela. So not all Arab.
    Arabs have got the biggest proportion of it though.

    You'd think God would have told his chosen people the Jews to live elsewhere in the Middle East rather than the one place there is no oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    Arabs have got the biggest proportion of it though.

    You'd think God would have told his chosen people the Jews to live elsewhere in the Middle East rather than the one place there is no oil.

    That’s why we gave it to them.

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