Bold, Bloody and Resolute (Early Impressions of Moore)

[phild]

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I am of the view there should be no apology for the burka comment as he's entitled to his view! Having spent a huge amount of time in the Middle East, many who wear burkas are lovely people. That said - should burkas be allowed? I would have no issue whatsoever if a person in Muslim dress taught my own child as long as their English was as good as the next English person and they were burka free. Wearing a burka in a school ( one of many places as an example ) should not be permitted as a child usually looks to lip read/engage with expression from a persons face for friendship, care and understanding. Many Muslims would agree with me on this point, although some do gooders who are white British may not! Here lies the problem. Going through airport security, my 7 year old was hand searched and this caused no problem - it did though when a " somebody" went through security with a burka and was not checked! Why? Did security feel they could get a complaint or was the individual a do gooder!

Are other European Countries wrong? Are we a magnet for immigration because of our do gooders, and their constant banging on about a re-vote on Brexit!

Happy for all as long as they pay taxes, can support themselves, speak English, and respect our culture and religion, as we should if outside of the UK.

So lets hope the alternative albion universe brings about more creativity, more hard work, players who want to graft for the shirt - in a league which is inferior to the one we were in!

If everyone discussed everything West Brom, it would be very depressing especially at the moment! QUOTE

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Too true Al i'd say Boris is factually correct SEE LINK

https://tinyurl.com/ycjmq9rg

[baggieal]

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I am of the view there should be no apology for the burka comment as he's entitled to his view! Having spent a huge amount of time in the Middle East, many who wear burkas are lovely people. That said - should burkas be allowed? I would have no issue whatsoever if a person in Muslim dress taught my own child as long as their English was as good as the next English person and they were burka free. Wearing a burka in a school ( one of many places as an example ) should not be permitted as a child usually looks to lip read/engage with expression from a persons face for friendship, care and understanding. Many Muslims would agree with me on this point, although some do gooders who are white British may not! Here lies the problem. Going through airport security, my 7 year old was hand searched and this caused no problem - it did though when a " somebody" went through security with a burka and was not checked! Why? Did security feel they could get a complaint or was the individual a do gooder!

Are other European Countries wrong? Are we a magnet for immigration because of our do gooders, and their constant banging on about a re-vote on Brexit!

Happy for all as long as they pay taxes, can support themselves, speak English, and respect our culture and religion, as we should if outside of the UK.

So lets hope the alternative albion universe brings about more creativity, more hard work, players who want to graft for the shirt - in a league which is inferior to the one we were in!

If everyone discussed everything West Brom, it would be very depressing especially at the moment! QUOTE

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Too true Al i'd say Boris is factually correct SEE LINK

https://tinyurl.com/ycjmq9rg

Thank you Phild! I rest my case! Was this Livermore with a Burka on as could imagine him carrying a white Handbag and he robs his monthly wage from West Brom FC under the pretense of being a top professional footballer!

[albion68]

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I am of the view there should be no apology for the burka comment as he's entitled to his view! Having spent a huge amount of time in the Middle East, many who wear burkas are lovely people. That said - should burkas be allowed? I would have no issue whatsoever if a person in Muslim dress taught my own child as long as their English was as good as the next English person and they were burka free. Wearing a burka in a school ( one of many places as an example ) should not be permitted as a child usually looks to lip read/engage with expression from a persons face for friendship, care and understanding. Many Muslims would agree with me on this point, although some do gooders who are white British may not! Here lies the problem. Going through airport security, my 7 year old was hand searched and this caused no problem - it did though when a " somebody" went through security with a burka and was not checked! Why? Did security feel they could get a complaint or was the individual a do gooder!

Are other European Countries wrong? Are we a magnet for immigration because of our do gooders, and their constant banging on about a re-vote on Brexit!

Happy for all as long as they pay taxes, can support themselves, speak English, and respect our culture and religion, as we should if outside of the UK.

So lets hope the alternative albion universe brings about more creativity, more hard work, players who want to graft for the shirt - in a league which is inferior to the one we were in!

If everyone discussed everything West Brom, it would be very depressing especially at the moment! QUOTE

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Too true Al i'd say Boris is factually correct SEE LINK

https://tinyurl.com/ycjmq9rg

waiting in the bus stop the other day, me and another elderly gentleman. When a woman in the full coverup except for a pair of spectacles on view was running for the bus carrying one of them shopping trollies.i say carrying and running for a reason.the elderly gentleman let her on first,no problem with that . she actually had a OAPs bus pass you couldn’t see her face but no way was she any were near OAPs age , the way she ran she would have beat usain bolt.

[Roymit]

Dear bagel, in regards to your reply all I will say is that for posters on this board who constantly state that they don't particularly care one way or another about gays it seems rather extraordinary to me how often you and they go out of their way to bring them up. Why? If you really don't care then why do you keep bringing up the subject of gays and their behaviour? As I stated on another thread "Methinks the lady doth protest too much." What is it about the gay community that exercises you so much that you feel it so necessary to pass comment upon homo***uals? How are they :"ramming it down your throat" - a somewhat bizarre and unfortunate choice of metaphor I would have thought. What is apparent from a very cursory reading of the comments on this board is that a lot of older men are very angry about all sorts of things and not just the Albion. Very angry indeed. I think the question that really needs asking is why so much of modern life in this country upsets so many of you?

[Roymit]

Baggieal that should read - it seems there's a mischievous gremlin wishing to render you as a Jewish steamed roll with a hole in it. Weird. Apologies.

[baggieal]

Baggieal that should read - it seems there's a mischievous gremlin wishing to render you as a Jewish steamed roll with a hole in it. Weird. Apologies.

Que? As reiterated again, I could not care less whether two guys swing from the lampshades within their own four walls as it's up to them! Does the country though need to see things like Brighton Pride especially our younger generation - most would say - not! How would a " we are straight march be perceived"?

As one poster pointed out - nothing wrong with being gay or a girl having three guys at once, however it's not the norm! Seeing Police etc with rainbow stripes on faces/jackets etc to blend in is undermining the authority they hold. Should all the Police wear ginger wigs at an Ed Sheeran concert?

PS - girls together rarely get mentioned as they don't feel the need to flaunt their ***ual orientation to the world! Then again girls wearing make up, and pretty dresses is the norm too out in public.

[Albionic68]

Struggling to see how a mini dissertation pondering the merits of experience over inexperience in the football world has degenerated into a debate over whether 'tis nobler to butt pump, not to butt pump or swallow within the confines of one's home, yet feel empowered to celebrate such actions and choices in public while dodging the attentions of burka clad Olympic sprinters wearing glasses running down the road waving pensioner bus passes.

While I'm suddenly confused to the point of feeling terribly old I have no desire to butt pump, swallow (either in public or at home) or chase anybody down the road so as to check their eligibility for an old age bus pass. Equally I'm not in the least bit angry over who does what to whom, where, when or at what speed. I think this means I'm not a 'gammon' but wouldn't swear to such a thought.

Puffs, muff divers, porcine references, Jewish deli' food and bespectacled Muslims; Roymit, there has to be the foundation of a comedy skit in here somewhere . .

[mickd1961]

Que? As reiterated again, I could not care less whether two guys swing from the lampshades within their own four walls as it's up to them! Does the country though need to see things like Brighton Pride especially our younger generation - most would say - not! How would a " we are straight march be perceived"?

As one poster pointed out - nothing wrong with being gay or a girl having three guys at once, however it's not the norm! Seeing Police etc with rainbow stripes on faces/jackets etc to blend in is undermining the authority they hold. Should all the Police wear ginger wigs at an Ed Sheeran concert?

PS - girls together rarely get mentioned as they don't feel the need to flaunt their ***ual orientation to the world! Then again girls wearing make up, and pretty dresses is the norm too out in public.

Just for the record.

Girls doing three blokes at a time are the norm in Lye.




That’s classed as a “quiet night” in this patch.

[Roymit]

Que? As reiterated again, I could not care less whether two guys swing from the lampshades within their own four walls as it's up to them! Does the country though need to see things like Brighton Pride especially our younger generation - most would say - not! How would a " we are straight march be perceived"?

As one poster pointed out - nothing wrong with being gay or a girl having three guys at once, however it's not the norm! Seeing Police etc with rainbow stripes on faces/jackets etc to blend in is undermining the authority they hold. Should all the Police wear ginger wigs at an Ed Sheeran concert?

PS - girls together rarely get mentioned as they don't feel the need to flaunt their ***ual orientation to the world! Then again girls wearing make up, and pretty dresses is the norm too out in public.

Dear Al, I don't understand what you mean when you say "Does the country though need to see things like Brighton Pride, especially our younger generation - most would say - not!"

So are we to believe that it is only the majority view that matters on a subject such as ***ual orientation, even when you have absolutely no basis for such a statement? How do you know "most would say not". What I know is that when posters use words like "perversion" about people's behaviour because they dislike it or are uncomfortable with the idea of it then such a subject is is no longer in debate but the beginning of prejudice and intolerance. Let's have no more talk of not caring about gays and then instantly stating that it's not the norm. What the hell is the norm? Who is normal and how is it to be categorised? Julius Caesar was a homo***ual, Alexander the Great was a homo***ual. So no, they certainly were not part of the norm. I feel on safe ground ins saying most of the most extraordinary things in history have been achieved by people who were not part of the "norm".

The fact that we can communicate directly, almost instantaneously in this manner, using these machines is the direct result of a genius who was homo***ual. No, he certainly wasn't part of the "norm". Luckily for us.

[baggieal]

Dear Al, I don't understand what you mean when you say "Does the country though need to see things like Brighton Pride, especially our younger generation - most would say - not!"

So are we to believe that it is only the majority view that matters on a subject such as ***ual orientation, even when you have absolutely no basis for such a statement? How do you know "most would say not". What I know is that when posters use words like "perversion" about people's behaviour because they dislike it or are uncomfortable with the idea of it then such a subject is is no longer in debate but the beginning of prejudice and intolerance. Let's have no more talk of not caring about gays and then instantly stating that it's not the norm. What the hell is the norm? Who is normal and how is it to be categorised? Julius Caesar was a homo***ual, Alexander the Great was a homo***ual. So no, they certainly were not part of the norm. I feel on safe ground ins saying most of the most extraordinary things in history have been achieved by people who were not part of the "norm".

The fact that we can communicate directly, almost instantaneously in this manner, using these machines is the direct result of a genius who was homo***ual. No, he certainly wasn't part of the "norm". Luckily for us.

Dear Roymit - perhaps you ought to take this up with the poster in a debate who used the words - perversion etc! I have no issue personally with anybody of whatever ***ual orientation if you read the thread correctly.

I do have an issue though with things such as Brighton Pride but that is my view. Should everyone who is straight, ginger, likes many partners have similar marches? Should Police try and appease these marchers by blending in with pastel coloured face paint etc? Who pays for these marches?

The country is a mess because of the do gooders and love him or hate him, there is now a debate on what Boris said which is not at all racist in any way. Pathetic me thinks!

Love or hate Brexit - the country should now concentrate on getting the best deals and those who voted to remain including many in my own family should accept a majority vote is democracy and you can't have a revote. I would love a rematch against Forest for the weak and pathetic display of some of our players but a result is a result.

Have a great day!