O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[millmoormagic]

From the outset, regardless how all us oiks voted, the negotiations have only been carried out with the tory party interests in mind, and frankly it stinks to high heaven.....

[animallittle3]

Esther McVey rumoured to be resigning from the cabinet , possibly tomorrow , no loss there then .

10 other members signed the deal off but didn't like it , possibly because it doesn't matter anyway as it won't get through parliament .

Corbyn and May meeting right now , feck knows what that's about , Corbyn hasn't a clue either , Starmer may have been her better opposition man as he actually knows Labour's position , mind you he's the only one that does .

DUP dont like it , SNP don't like it , remainers don't like it , brexiters don't like it .

Humiliating defeat for May when it gets voted down I guess .

Tory whips might flip a few rebels with the it's this or a marxist government line but it possibly still won't be enough .

Can't see her surviving much longer to be honest , untenable position .

What next ?

Who knows , if the DUP walk away from the supply and confidence deal then that weakens the tory government even more .

A General Election ?

I don't think anyone will command a majority , The DUP won't back up the Tories and it's hard to see anyone siding with Labour whilst ever Corbyn is leader .

It aint good chaps .

[CASPER-64-FRANK]

She will ' blag ' it through with a little help from Moggy......don't start creaming your pants just yet.

[animallittle3]

She will ' blag ' it through with a little help from Moggy......don't start creaming your pants just yet.

I think Mogg is more likely to be walking around parliament right now with a shotgun and a number of henchmen ready to shoot her on sight .

[millmoormagic]

Tories called the referendum....

Tories set up the framework and actual question of the referendum...

Tories said they'd get the best deal for the UK...

Tories have been in fighting for two years on the type of brexit....

Tories have told us consistently that we will get the best deal possible....

Tories have just given us a deal that is woefully short of the promises they have consistently made....

Tories are now going to dump the PM, who even though she's a tory and my enemy, has had this dumped on her by Cameron, a coward of the highest order...

Tories will dump the prime minister shortly, which will probably mean that parliament won't get to vote on this deal anyway, a new tory prime minister will be chosen....by an unelected committee of out of date, out of touch neanderthals, Boris Johnson anyone???

[great_fire]

Neanderthals really?

That's your level of political debate?

[millmoormagic]

Neanderthals really?

That's your level of political debate?

How would you describe the 1922 committee?

[great_fire]

How would you describe the 1922 committee?

"Old fashioned" maybe?

I doubt there's any of them as thick as Corbyn or Abbott though.

Neanderthals get a bad rap anyway, humans who interbred with neanderthals (Asians, Europeans) actually have higher average IQs than those who didn't (sub-Saharan Africans).

[millmoormagic]

"Old fashioned" maybe?

I doubt there's any of them as thick as Corbyn or Abbott though.

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Is that your level of political debate????

[animallittle3]

Tories called the referendum....

Tories set up the framework and actual question of the referendum...

Tories said they'd get the best deal for the UK...

Tories have been in fighting for two years on the type of brexit....

Tories have told us consistently that we will get the best deal possible....

Tories have just given us a deal that is woefully short of the promises they have consistently made....

Tories are now going to dump the PM, who even though she's a tory and my enemy, has had this dumped on her by Cameron, a coward of the highest order...

Tories will dump the prime minister shortly, which will probably mean that parliament won't get to vote on this deal anyway, a new tory prime minister will be chosen....by an unelected committee of out of date, out of touch neanderthals, Boris Johnson anyone???

Aye I've no problem with Boris MMM , if you are a Labour man you can see the long game advantages .

It keeps the tories nice and split because a significant number of them dislike him intensely .

To tell the truth I'm more concerned where we are heading , JC has done a good job putting the party back to what it was originally set up to do but to win an election with a majority concerns me and I don't believe he can achieve it .

I'm personally swiming against a bit of a tide at the moment and speaking out get Starmer in the leadership game , I'm not popular , feck em anyway , what's new .

In my opinion the very best Corbyn can do is win with no majority but Starmer could win comfortably if he takes the gig minus Abbott and McConnell and a slight shift to the centre and I do say slight , lets not go down the Blair route .

JC has done a remarkable job to bring the party back to its roots but that's not going to be enough as it wasn't for Kinnock who went the opposite way and fell short .

Starmer is the acceptable and electable face of centre left politics .

Put him up against Johnson and we'll have a comfortable majority in my opinion , Starmer actually has a brain which is a distinct advantage .