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Thread: Burnley Will Not Be Making Big Investments During January Transfer Deadline.

  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersub6 View Post
    You are all getting stressed --it isn't worth it --it is only a game. We have a long way to go before we are in danger of going out of the league.
    Just chill because Burnley FC is just like Brexit ---Que Sera Sera and there is not one thing you can do about either so just don't worry what might happen ---just deal with whatever does happen.
    The only thing I will add is that, if you do not like what is happening on and off the field then just stop going because nobody forces you to ---it is a matter of free choice.
    Like I said sub, I'm getting to that point _ unfortunately I have a season ticket and take my dad who's been going since we were the best of the best.

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    Next season will be my 68th season and nothing ever surprises me. I have never lived nearer than 100 miles from the Turf since 1966 and I have a season ticket.
    Burnley is my club,even though I was brought up in a house where dad had a seasson ticket at Burnley and mum had one at Blackburn.
    The only thing which will stop me going to support the Clarets will very much depend on where we finish this season. If we stay in the PL and they introduce VAR I shall not be renewing, however, if we are relegated to the Championship and they don't introduce VAR then I will be more than happy to renew.

    I know this may sound strange, however, as someone who mentors young referees, I find that the introduction of VAR very much undermines the authority of the onfield officials --as was seen in the World Cup Finals.
    Just my personal viewpoint after a long time with a lot of involvement in the game at a semi professional level and below.

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    "Everyone knows January's a really tough window so, to make it clear, we're not looking for Mike to come in and miraculously hand over seven players. We're looking for a bigger picture process to add to what we try to do on the recruitment side. There's certain people we're interested in but we'll have to wait and see."

    It's just a re-hash of what he said in summer, and of what he said last January, and the summer before that, and the January before that. In fact Sean has been making the same speech every window since he arrived.

    And to be fair he's only telling it like it is, no miracles, no cavalry charging over the hill to the rescue. Just keep hoping there are three teams worse than us, and if there aren't, no worries, we'll give it a good go next season in the Championship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bfcjon View Post
    According to the Daily Mail "

    Sean Dyche insists Burnley will NOT be making big investments during the January transfer deadline...

    I really hope, they have their wires crossed !!!
    I've been saying that they wont buy in January for quite a while now based on sound logic.

    1. Why would they "panic" buy to try and stay up when they wouldn't buy at the beginning of the season? You just increase your wage bill with "blow-in" players and if you go down, anyway, you are stuck paying higher wages for the new payers for no gain.

    2. Why would you pay higher then normal transfer fees in January and have the added problem that the new players have to hit the ground running and have no time to get fit or shake off injuries or learn our tactical plan (although in our case the hoof ball isn't that hard to learn).

    3. Why would you bother to risk more fan dissatisfaction by bringing in players who go under the microscope and are then shown to be not good enough for the job or not what is required? You only add fuel to the fire to get ride of the Manager. Why would he want to light the blow torch underneath himself?

    Far better to go down then rebuild when the pressure has come off and the kind of player you are more willing to bid for is not Prem material and is in greater supply?

    We didn't buy when the pressure was off pre-season--we aren't throwing money away now.

    I may be very wrong but I doubt many can name players we have bought in previous January windows who have made a difference?

    The very best we can hope for is a loanee or two and you get what you get with that tactic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersub6 View Post
    Next season will be my 68th season and nothing ever surprises me. I have never lived nearer than 100 miles from the Turf since 1966 and I have a season ticket.
    Burnley is my club,even though I was brought up in a house where dad had a seasson ticket at Burnley and mum had one at Blackburn.
    The only thing which will stop me going to support the Clarets will very much depend on where we finish this season. If we stay in the PL and they introduce VAR I shall not be renewing, however, if we are relegated to the Championship and they don't introduce VAR then I will be more than happy to renew.

    I know this may sound strange, however, as someone who mentors young referees, I find that the introduction of VAR very much undermines the authority of the onfield officials --as was seen in the World Cup Finals.
    Just my personal viewpoint after a long time with a lot of involvement in the game at a semi professional level and below.
    VAR is such an interesting topic Supersub.

    I love the video replays and ball tracking in Cricket. I don't think it undermines the Umps at all as the difference between a right and wrong call is often centimeters. The ball goes so quickly that its good to know if the decision was right or wrong. However, Umpires do much more on-field than just judge out or not out and there are many, many, rules they oversee which does not involve VAR

    Take speeding in a car. Once upon a time road speed indicator signs were nothing more than recommendations. Now we can monitor car speeds so speeds are now absolute. Another form of VAR if you like--only this one can take days to come through with an infringement!

    Referees control of a game needs to be firm but their decisions on-field should be assisted with whatever is available.

    Like cricket umpires, there are many Football rules the Refs have to adjudicate upon; some well known and some quite obscure. We tend to just focus on VAR and goal decisions as if that's the be all and end all of their role. It really isn't.

    Why shouldn't modern technology be use alongside all of the other rules to check or confirm a Refs decision? If a Ref requires a linesman (a Referees assistant) why can't he also look upon VAR as another assistant?

    I do understand the view that a game is played by people and should just be judged only by people and all the rights and wrongs are just part of the game so suck it up.

    But goal-line technology is good, isn't it?

    How often does a linesman raise his flag for offside to discover on unofficial replays that the player was sometimes onside or offside by cms and that the linesman really had to guess his decision.

    Does that human decision make it more or less acceptable than VAR?

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    blueheeler --I have no problem with VAR in cricket because it is all black and white. Line calls in tennis, decisions in rugby, sppeding cars are all OK as far as I am concerned. Goal line technology is excellent and should have been brought in a lot sooner than it was.
    However, if we are going to use VAR in football it should go the whole hog and be used for ball in and out of play --because very often the whole ball does not go over the whole of the line but a decision is made that it has. Offside has been messed about with so much that you have a situation, as happened at the Turf on Monday night, where a ball was played over the top and Rondon was 10 yards offside, however, Long miscontrolled the ball and it bounced towards Rondon, who was technically five yards offside and then put Long under pressure --would VAR have been used to verify this --no it wouldn't.

    There are many more instances I could quote, however, we get back to the fact that, unlike rugby where the referee asks for a review, or cricket and tennis which can be called for by players or umpires, all who are on the field of play, the situation in football is going to be ruled by someone who is sat away from the action who will then communicate with the onfield officials to tell then that they may well be wrong.
    In other words, we are being asked to accept that they get 98% of decisions correct without any aids, however, they need aid to get the other 2% correct which will be based on somebody else's opinion.
    Remember too that, unlike the other sports, it is very unlikely that anything will be shown to those actually attending the match, so we will be in the dark as to what is happening with any review.

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    I am against VAR for several reasons but no way would it stop me going to watch the Clarets.

    One big thing in it's favour though is that refs would not be under as much intense pressure.

    If they are not sure of a decision then they would face the wrath of the penalised team, their fans, the pundits on the TV and the hacks in the press if they get it badly wrong.
    The refs would feel more comfortable in these circumstances if they knew that the final decision is correct. and that has to be a big plus.

    But I still don't want VAR.

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    Interesting thought 1959_60 ----most of the referees who I am in contact with are against VAR and think that it will increase pressure rather than reduce it. Mind you, the main reason that they are against it is the fact that it will only be introduced at top levels of the game and this devalues the game at every level below ----even though The Laws of the Game are the same and they have to be administered by officials on the pitch.
    How has the game survived so long without VAR? Perhaps it is because we older guys were conditioned to respect officialdom and just get on with the game.

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    I still reckon even with the introduction of VAR somehow they will still fiddle it so the top teams get the decision in their favour..

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