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It's not about fake positivity, it's about getting behind the club.
When's the last time anyone here responded positively to being slated/critisised? So Bohinien I take your point but all more critisism is going to do is add more toxicity/defensiveness (not the sort we're after just to clarify)
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In the workplace probably quite a few if they valued their job. And almost certainly if they wanted to progress in their chosen field. The trouble in this case is the task required is beyond the players skill set (either understanding or execution of instruction). The critics have probably gone beyond their limit and consider the players (some of the players) don't give a toss about you and I and Notts County Football Club and are taking the pizz!!Originally Posted by Pietastic
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OK, fair enough. But I had this once with a Cloughie style boss who really laid into me. He left some of the others alone, and I later found out it was because he rated me enough to bother. I worked my *******s off for him.It's not about fake positivity, it's about getting behind the club.
When's the last time anyone here responded positively to being slated/critisised? So Bohinien I take your point but all more critisism is going to do is add more toxicity/defensiveness (not the sort we're after just to clarify)
As for the players, they won't read this site or even care if they do. My target is Hardy or Trew or whoever is at the top, because it never filters through to them and when it does, they ignore it because some **** will always tell them they're doing a great job. We should stick together more.
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Elite Pie: I've tried repeating "Dan Jones is a pretty good left back" twenty times, but it doesn't seem to be working.
... hail Snobhead 1. You look and look and look at him; looking for the thing that's good which somebody somewhere must see different to you. But no. He is cr4p.
Whatever happened to the simple rules .. 1. first to the ball. 2. stop the cross. That's all you have to do.
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All the genuine Notts fans on here love the club no doubt.
I have been going for 48 years, home and to a lot of away games.
I left Exeter this season (£200 lighter) saying I would not return until the players show they give a damn or can follow the manager's instructions.
I have witnessed some truly shocking performances this season and player attitudes (take a bow Nathan Thomas) so am at an all time low in terms of enthusiasm and motivation to make the near 60 mile round trip from where I live.
I attend most games with some great friends and we have a good day out but that will not cloud my judgement on continually paying out to watch passionless footballers and/or clueless managers much longer.
I look at clubs like Accrington, Newport, Stevenage, Wycombe etc who probably have less resource than Notts, but always do pretty well. Hard working proud players who maybe have limited technical ability but turn up most games.
Alan Hardy has spent a lot of money apparently trying to make the club as good as it can be given our fan base but gets some serious stick on here. He communicates when he shouldn't and certainly likes the adulation but I think his heart is in the right place.
I don't expect Notts to be a Portsmouth, Plymouth, etc just to be a club that I can be proud to call MY club. I don't currently have that feeling.
I come form the period of Bill Brindley, Brian Stubbs, Eric Probert, Arthur Mann, Eric McManus etc. Not the most naturally gifted of players but players I loved watching and respected.
I just dont have that with modern footballers.
I am giving the game tomorrow a miss and watching a local semi pro team instead. I will be in touch with Notts but am trying to break that habit of going out of habit. The current players (with a few exceptions) simply do not deserve my respect and hard earnt money.
If Notts do go down as looks very likely, it will be a very very sad day for great old club. The journey back could be a long way off.
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Every time we're bad there's always a suggestion that the fans need to be more positive. Sorry, the fans have been exceedingly patient this season, they didn't clamour for Kewells sacking, were reluctant to get rid of Nolan and hope rather than expect Ardley to save our skins and have re-adjusted their sights from a promotion push to settling for 90th of 92.
The team may have been booed off at half time on Saturday but we're applauded back on it only mildly.
Even on here which can be hyperbolic when things aren't going great there's been more resignation and bewilderment than negativity and hostility.
Loads of things and people to blame for this season but not the fans.
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I think the support for the team was there for all to see and hear on Saturday when we got the equaliser, and look what happened.
I think people are entitled to challenge poor performance.
It is up to the player to respond. If they fail to respond(which many haven't this season) then perhaps they may be better suited plying their trade somewhere else.
For Mr Hardy , he was prepared to put his money where is mouth is. Fair play to the man 10 out of 10 for his efforts.
IMHO
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I understand where you are coming from. There are two games that have stood out for me which everything you mentioned was all warrant. The Cheltenham home defeat and Macclesfield. These have been two terrible lows this season and it should be expected that fans are going to hurt when they see their team roll over at will without appearing to have any pride or passion.
What I think can be more of a problem are after performances like these there are still happy clappers applauding them off which is embarrassing. These people give the green light to accept awful sub-standard performances. Therefore I think it’s import players need to know that a certain level of performance is not acceptable when you put on the black and white shirt.
Having said all that once the game is done and the autopsy has been conducted and emotions have calmed down we do need to move on to the next game and get behind the players once again. I think Notts fans are good in this respect.
Already many have written us off in terms of getting anything out of the Bury game today, but that is not the mentality we need because if the players think like that then they may as well not bother going out there.
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The biggest problem is what is called in business; acceptable underperformance.
Eventually a person's work rate, ability, attitude call it what you will becomes just that. It reaches a level. Relegation becomes the only option to many- see these pages. So yes constructive challenges and criticism are valid. Unlike emotional clap trap.
It's a shame players can't be sacked, or can they?
Ollie's latest Post column? Claptrap too.
Tell us he's learning. Learning what? Hasn't learnt to stay away from Twitface.
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The first four lines of your post were an interesting contribution. When it then became the predictable ad hominem attack on the guy who's risking his own money on bankrolling our club it lost all credibility I'm afraid.
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