EU Election results

[WBA123]

"You can only go off votes that are cast " Did I just read your quote right?
52% voted leave on a two poll choice. So by your logic that wraps it up them?

If you want to go there, then you would have to define what a Leave vote actually is, because I still don't know.

If it was leave with a deal, which was promised to us before the referendum. And considering 'No Deal' Brexit parties were behind pro remain parties on the popular vote last night. You could argue that leaving with Theresa May's deal might be the democratic option.

It's clear to see both sides of this debate don't want that.

[Leicesterbaggie]

Soulman, I watched the BBC Election Results programme as well and Emily Thornberry talked the biggest load of rubbish I have ever heard. She was basically in denial. At least the young Tory lass, can't remember her name, said it as it was and that they had got a complete hammering. The Brexit rep. just laughed and was basically thinking 'What planet is this woman on?'

Both the 'major' parties were sent a clear message and that is that the public think that the majority of MP's, on both sides of the divide, have let the country down badly. They have; basically through self interest. The worrying thing is that, if Thornberry is anything to go by, they still aren't listening. The bottom line is, we've told you what we want, now get on and do it!

[Leicesterbaggie]

123, from reading your posts you are obviously an intelligent individual. However, you are wrong on one major point and that is, unless you had a different voting paper to me, there was no mention of leaving with a deal. It simply asked the question, do you want to remain or leave the European Union? I can't explain it any more clearly than that.

[baggieal]

123, from reading your posts you are obviously an intelligent individual. However, you are wrong on one major point and that is, unless you had a different voting paper to me, there was no mention of leaving with a deal. It simply asked the question, do you want to remain or leave the European Union? I can't explain it any more clearly than that.

Intelligent people Leicester debate - like Ketts even though views may differ. A rseholes stamp their feet and try and ram their beliefs down ones throat.

Intelligence is one thing but having common sense is another!

[kettering_baggie]

It’s as clear as it ever was that the country is as divided now as it was at the time of the referendum. If we, on this board, could come up with a solution we’d be the toast of the country, but we can’t. The situation has really been created, firstly, by David Cameron, by initiating a referendum on a deeply flawed premise, ‘Leave’ should have been more precisely defined, and secondly, by Theresa May for making a complete pigs ear out of the subsequent negotiations. For me, it is very interesting to look at the Green vote, not just in this country but across Europe too. I voted LibDem but I think that Green Party voters were considering wider issues than just Brexit. The biggest issue facing all of us is the environment and climate change; it is a very serious matter and something really needs to be done. The Green Party seems to be more or less alone in putting this to the fore. One of the reasons I want to remain in the EU is that I believe that we stand a much better chance of dealing with climate and environmental issues as part of Europe. None of the possible Tory leaders inspire any confidence that they will do this, nor does Corbyn. Green matters are far more important than Brexit; if we do not start to clean up the environment quite soon, then it won’t matter whether we are in or out of the EU. Please, think hard about who is going to do anything meaningful about this.

[mickd1961]

It’s as clear as it ever was that the country is as divided now as it was at the time of the referendum. If we, on this board, could come up with a solution we’d be the toast of the country, but we can’t. The situation has really been created, firstly, by David Cameron, by initiating a referendum on a deeply flawed premise, ‘Leave’ should have been more precisely defined, and secondly, by Theresa May for making a complete pigs ear out of the subsequent negotiations. For me, it is very interesting to look at the Green vote, not just in this country but across Europe too. I voted LibDem but I think that Green Party voters were considering wider issues than just Brexit. The biggest issue facing all of us is the environment and climate change; it is a very serious matter and something really needs to be done. The Green Party seems to be more or less alone in putting this to the fore. One of the reasons I want to remain in the EU is that I believe that we stand a much better chance of dealing with climate and environmental issues as part of Europe. None of the possible Tory leaders inspire any confidence that they will do this, nor does Corbyn. Green matters are far more important than Brexit; if we do not start to clean up the environment quite soon, then it won’t matter whether we are in or out of the EU. Please, think hard about who is going to do anything meaningful about this.

The “Green” issue is worthy yet pointless in my opinion

I don’t know if you’re aware Kets but in the last two years alone China have produced more steel than the U.K. has in its entire history.

Whilst vast nations like China,India,North Korea exercise their right to develop to our level all this putting your rubbish in the right coloured bins is nothing but a Gnat bite on an elephant’s a r s e.

Anyway,if you believe in the “Big Bang” and in what the space experts say the world will naturally end anyway.

The moon moves 6cm away from the earth every year so over a period of many years the tides will eventually stop and the weather patterns change for the worse.

The Sun eventually swallows the earth anyway.

The distance between us and the nearest habital earth like planet is so far that it’s simply mind boggling and will take multiple lifetimes to reach even in the minute chance we create the power and technology to reach it.

We probably should just accept that we’ve been “lucky” enough to experience conscious life and stop worrying about the minutia.

[baggieal]

It’s as clear as it ever was that the country is as divided now as it was at the time of the referendum. If we, on this board, could come up with a solution we’d be the toast of the country, but we can’t. The situation has really been created, firstly, by David Cameron, by initiating a referendum on a deeply flawed premise, ‘Leave’ should have been more precisely defined, and secondly, by Theresa May for making a complete pigs ear out of the subsequent negotiations. For me, it is very interesting to look at the Green vote, not just in this country but across Europe too. I voted LibDem but I think that Green Party voters were considering wider issues than just Brexit. The biggest issue facing all of us is the environment and climate change; it is a very serious matter and something really needs to be done. The Green Party seems to be more or less alone in putting this to the fore. One of the reasons I want to remain in the EU is that I believe that we stand a much better chance of dealing with climate and environmental issues as part of Europe. None of the possible Tory leaders inspire any confidence that they will do this, nor does Corbyn. Green matters are far more important than Brexit; if we do not start to clean up the environment quite soon, then it won’t matter whether we are in or out of the EU. Please, think hard about who is going to do anything meaningful about this.

Sensible post and agree with you about the green issues to a degree although not about staying in the EU. Any new leader would or should listen to issues from all parties and then take on board the things that matter. People are like sheep and it’s about getting them on your side to a degree. Love him or hate him - Farage has charisma, personality and comes across as a people’s person. May is out of touch and Corbyn is just a W anker! I do think there’s a whole world out there where new deals can be done without being shackled!

[boingy]

OUT of the EU, It wont mean that we will be eating our children OBVIOUSLY, or killing our pets because we can't feed them as has happened in difficult times in the past. Its refreshing to see that all the spiteful, stinking, slimey pushing for remain despite the result is obviously only on the telly and not what the people on the ground want. Regarding the Green party, they shouldn't be a party, they should be a department of any Government that is elected because it is that important to care for the planet. Had to laugh that Even after the result which showed England and Wales as a huge sea of light blue the presenter still said "As you can see the country is still divided"!...which is typical of the kind of garbage and spin we have received from the media. Scotland?...well what can you say about Scotland? If they honestly think they will be better off inside the federal state then maybe there's no hope for them, maybe we should take the EU stance being as they like it so much and tell them that they can't expect to "Cherry pick" from the UK and that there's a "Special place in hell for those who vote to leave the UK"

[albion68]

OUT of the EU, It wont mean that we will be eating our children OBVIOUSLY, or killing our pets because we can't feed them as has happened in difficult times in the past. Its refreshing to see that all the spiteful, stinking, slimey pushing for remain despite the result is obviously only on the telly and not what the people on the ground want. Regarding the Green party, they shouldn't be a party, they should be a department of any Government that is elected because it is that important to care for the planet. Had to laugh that Even after the result which showed England and Wales as a huge sea of light blue the presenter still said "As you can see the country is still divided"!...which is typical of the kind of garbage and spin we have received from the media. Scotland?...well what can you say about Scotland? If they honestly think they will be better off inside the federal state then maybe there's no hope for them, maybe we should take the EU stance being as they like it so much and tell them that they can't expect to "Cherry pick" from the UK and that there's a "Special place in hell for those who vote to leave the UK"

very good post boingy.

[baggieal]

very good post boingy.

It was a good post and like the point where Green should not be a party but perhaps a department which each elected government should take on. Green issues are important but more emphasis should be placed on large businesses to go green and budget accordingly. In terms of Joe Public - more incentives to be green! Remember when the Corona man used to give you money back on recycled bottles!!!

Less Coastguard boat fuel would also help save the planet by going out every hour or so to rescue dinghies coming in with illegals 😂