OT Why has the Labour party sold its soul?

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The labour party is closer to its original roots right now than it has been for decades.

I think Labour is as far away it it has been from its voters, its completely out of touch

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John Curtice who I trust more than most on polling has highlighted a steady drift to Remain which now stands at 54% to 46% Leave. I don't think all 54% live in Islington and it was noted that 4 Labour seats which voted Leave in 2016 are now Remain. All my family are lifelong Labour voters but if Labour doesn't unequivocally support Remain at the next election all four of us are voting LibDem. This is mirrored in dozens of people we know almost all traditional Northern working class although quite a few are graduates.

That was the same as the pre-vote figures as it was sugessted that leave were more likely not to disclose.

None of it matters anyway as we are all leavers now

[EasyAndEarly]

"think he's just desperate for power, any power"

Think he's desparate to save this country from these parasites. The things the tories have cut back on - closed - endangered are legion - sadly the TORY MEDIA NEVER QUESTION THEM OR REPORT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS.

SHAME !

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I think Labour is as far away it it has been from its voters, its completely out of touch

That aint what I said, look at the policies, reversing the massive cuts to the NHS and fully funding it, stopping the legalised rape of our utilities by renationalising, stopping the legalised rape of the rail industry by renationalising, all the three things I've mentioned are being pillaged by greedy capitalists at the expense of me, you, everyone. Those three things should be the bedrock of our society, instead we've allowed neo liberal gov'ts of the last 30-40 years to allow wealthy corporates to make billions and continue to cut cut cut services.
If you agree with that then shame on you, of the policies of all the party's, for a working class person it's a no brainer....of course, there's many who have fell for the rancid bullshine aimed daily at the Labour party over the last few years by the msm, frankly if you believe that you'll believe owt.

[millmoormagic]

It'll be nice to see :

British Gas - one tariff
British water board
British Rail - one ticket rational
British Coal - Now carbon capture technology has developed
British Electric - one tariff
A true -medically lead NHS
A true transport policy - roll on - roll off train / haulage hubs.
A true social building policy
British airways
British telecommunications
A true Royal Mail

Problem is "Money" would be overseas in minutes because "Money" is raping this country and the tories are supplying the victims.

The public is being ripped off left, right & centre but that's just collateral damage to the rich getting richer. Ho hum.

Couldn't agree more.

[millmoormagic]

"think he's just desperate for power, any power"

Think he's desparate to save this country from these parasites. The things the tories have cut back on - closed - endangered are legion - sadly the TORY MEDIA NEVER QUESTION THEM OR REPORT THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS.

SHAME !

Correct, yet the sheep will continue to soak it up while the county burns....

[great_fire]

It'll be nice to see :

British Gas - one tariff
British water board
British Rail - one ticket rational
British Coal - Now carbon capture technology has developed
British Electric - one tariff
A true -medically lead NHS
A true transport policy - roll on - roll off train / haulage hubs.
A true social building policy
British airways
British telecommunications
A true Royal Mail

Problem is "Money" would be overseas in minutes because "Money" is raping this country and the tories are supplying the victims.

The public is being ripped off left, right & centre but that's just collateral damage to the rich getting richer. Ho hum.

Well I hope you're not a Remainer as the EU would nix half of those.

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Well I hope you're not a Remainer as the EU would nix half of those.

Thats what some socialists dont get, its quite funny they want to hand over our utilities to the French private companies

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Thats what some socialists dont get, its quite funny they want to hand over our utilities to the French private companies

The French already own it fella, our utilities are mostly foreign owned, through the system you like to venerate, I see you're reached planet GF level, I feel for you, really I do.

[BigLadonOS]

The Labour party has gone down hill for years. They no longer care about or have any interest in the working class of the UK as it is now all about the money.

People go on about how much trouble the NHS is in now under a Conservative government but what what many people fail to remember is that it was the Labour Gov under Blair and Brown that the private sector were first let in to the NHS and take almost all the money out of it that should go on equipment and patient care.

Blair let 11 private healthcare providers into the NHS and then Trusts were created and the rest as they say is history.