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[MikeSB]

Re the penalty Mike.
On the day ( I was there, were you?) it was very very obviously a good legitimate tackle. On the highlights, I agree it was ambiguous, but, on a twitter feed (can't find it anymore) that was on a loop, the tackle was excellent and no way a penalty. The player was actually going down (diving??) before Ng got the ball.

No, I wasn't at the match but few fans can actually see these incidents clearly from the stands or even who scores goals sometimes and then you can see the difference when they are seen almost forensically on the later highlights and slow replays and why we can see the tackle 'clearly' failed in that he didn't get the ball and cut across the player and as a result brought him down and what's more the Ref was just a few yards away and made his decision right away. Just my opinion even though it was hotly disputed by McGarry and Morse and fans are naturally prejudiced lol. DA will get into trouble for his after match comments though. DA was in no position to judge as he was too far away and too many players in the way. I doubt he will appeal after seeing it later.

I think 62 years of me supporting CAFC and going to away matches when I was the only fan there entitles me to a view though!

[AstonAlex]

I had to leave after an hour, just as Dale was coming on, so can only accurately comment on what I saw, but felt that our experienced players let the youngsters down. Lancashire was turned far too easily for the opening goal and Green’s lunge that got him sent off was either naive or reckless.... or somewhere in between and looked like a stonewall red from the stand. Porter was pretty anonymous in the first half and Powell didn’t really contribute much either. I thought these players were there to supplement and guide our young players. Green generally does, and Nolan and Porter are generally reliable, but yesterday they were disappointing. Must agree that Carruthers scored more for artistic impression than technical merit during the match, going down faster than a cheap hooker in Cobridge - how long before this comment is removed!!

One positive to end on. I watched the highlights and was impressed with Anene’s cute finish - not what one might expect from a big man and gives further hope for the future.

[jimmyboldon]

I am a fan of Porter, but yes he was disappointing yesterday. Best kick he had all day was the water bottle as he was substituted. Thought Annene did more in 25? Mins that Porter all game.

[jimmyboldon]

Sorry Mike but you are wrong. Ng CLEARLY got the ball, both 'on the day by eye'(and would like to think that is not a predudiced opinion, along with everyone around me, along with everyone I overheard walking away from the ground.) AND, as I said earlier, the twitter clip is unequivocal, Perry got the ball cleanly.
You are always entitled to a view/opinion, but length of service, away games etc is totally irrelevant. The opinion of someone attending for the first time would be equally relevant, if not more so as they actually attended.

Anyway, nice to have you back posting after a loss.

[MikeSB]

Sorry Mike but you are wrong. Ng CLEARLY got the ball, both 'on the day by eye'(and would like to think that is not a predudiced opinion, along with everyone around me, along with everyone I overheard walking away from the ground.) AND, as I said earlier, the twitter clip is unequivocal, Perry got the ball cleanly.
You are always entitled to a view/opinion, but length of service, away games etc is totally irrelevant. The opinion of someone attending for the first time would be equally relevant, if not more so as they actually attended.

Anyway, nice to have you back posting after a loss.

Haha....

Sorry but being at the game is immaterial as 'most' fans cannot see most incidents whereas close up video clearly can. Go and have another look and see Perry never came into contact with the ball and I would suggest had he, it would not have been a penalty. The Ref had a clearer look than ANY fan in both incidents actually and wanting it so doesn't make it so..

The point of saying I had been a fan 62 years and going to away games where I never saw another Crewe fan surely suggests that I would always give Crewe the benefit of the doubt but when the evidence is clear as in this case then no case to argue imo.

What's the point in posting when we win? This board is not a patch on the old fans forum boards.

[MikeSB]

Had another look on a slow motion video and it does show Perry possibly getting very close to the ball but without moving it but he was clearly lunging across the player and actually fouled him and brought him down ie obstruction which was a clear pen even had Perry got to the ball first and we can see the Ref was only ten yards away with a clear view of the incident. The point is everyone was saying it wasn't a pen and blaming the Ref when the video shows up that was the case. Group think with football fans is a shoe in though and I possibly would have booed the Ref at the end like everyone else on our side..I doubt that most fans would be able to see what the video showed in the split second it took.

[jimmyboldon]

@PhilJBowers
First time I've seen footage of the "penalty" at #CreweAlex yesterday. Awful decision. This ref has a history of mistakes. Where is the accountability? Players get dropped, managers get fired, what will happen to this guy?

The @QuestTV panelists pull no punches about the refereeing decision that cost #CreweAlex today. “A diabolical decision”.

[Me For Crewe]

Had another look on a slow motion video and it does show Perry possibly getting very close to the ball but without moving it but he was clearly lunging across the player and actually fouled him and brought him down ie obstruction which was a clear pen even had Perry got to the ball first and we can see the Ref was only ten yards away with a clear view of the incident. The point is everyone was saying it wasn't a pen and blaming the Ref when the video shows up that was the case. Group think with football fans is a shoe in though and I possibly would have booed the Ref at the end like everyone else on our side..I doubt that most fans would be able to see what the video showed in the split second it took.

Mike if you are on Twitter then have a look at @simonklewis tweets 9.04pm, Sep 14th. If you are not find somebody who is. Have a look at the video and then tell me that it is a penalty! Their lad is going down before he gets to Perry, clearly folding his legs up and Perry clearly diverts the ball across the area before any contact was made by the Cambridge player on him when originally it was heading in the direction of the goal. End of.

[MikeSB]

Mike if you are on Twitter then have a look at @simonklewis tweets 9.04pm, Sep 14th. If you are not find somebody who is. Have a look at the video and then tell me that it is a penalty! Their lad is going down before he gets to Perry, clearly folding his legs up and Perry clearly diverts the ball across the area before any contact was made by the Cambridge player on him when originally it was heading in the direction of the goal. End of.

I don't read or post on twitter but went across just now to see the video of the incident and as much as I want it not to be a pen and not wanting to be contentious just to be awkward , I have to say that video adds nothing to the one on the video highlights and in fact confirms my own thoughts that Perry 'lunged' at their player and in reality it made no difference whether he touched the ball or not but I don't think he did get more than a fresh air touch because had he got a toe on the ball, it would surely have gone a few yards and it hardly moved, suggesting he didn't. We need a ref on here to confirm or otherwise. What is worse is the free header they got for their second goal. In the old days the Keeper would have come out for those sorts of balls and not stuck on his goal line.

Just to add another bone of contention, I think it was wrong for DA to drop Richards when he saved a pen the week before. IMO.

[ShropshireAlex]

I don't read or post on twitter but went across just now to see the video of the incident and as much as I want it not to be a pen and not wanting to be contentious just to be awkward , I have to say that video adds nothing to the one on the video highlights and in fact confirms my own thoughts that Perry 'lunged' at their player and in reality it made no difference whether he touched the ball or not but I don't think he did get more than a fresh air touch because had he got a toe on the ball, it would surely have gone a few yards and it hardly moved, suggesting he didn't. We need a ref on here to confirm or otherwise. What is worse is the free header they got for their second goal. In the old days the Keeper would have come out for those sorts of balls and not stuck on his goal line.

Just to add another bone of contention, I think it was wrong for DA to drop Richards when he saved a pen the week before. IMO.

Just seen the Twitter video and it shows with crystal clarity that Perrie got the ball and moved it (as I saw live at the game), and didn't even go fully to ground himself - was moving on to clear the ball when the pen was given, by ref running from behind Owen Dale.