O/T:- Extinction Rebellion

[Notsohumblepie]

Interesting to see Andrew Neil interview one of this group's honchos on his show last night.

His guest (a young female activist) spluttered and gulped when asked by Neil to prove billions would die throughout the world if nothing was done to halt climate change by 2025 (6 years away) and could only keep repeating the bilge that it would happen without giving any firm reasons why. As Andrew pointed out, other learned scientists had disproved many of the theories being spouted by this cult of protesters but again the poor brainwashed girl had no sound reply.

Myself I believe this is a serious problem but will get sorted eventually to a satisfactory level, but the disruption caused in London and other cities by the majority of the 'protesters' is nothing short of being another example of jumping on the wagon to frustrate normal people going about their business without any thought to these people's livelihoods. It can't be lawfully done but a bloody good hiding would stop this rabble's chelp ....... Grrrrgh!

Apparently ER are gearing up for two weeks of protests at sites across central London, and have claimed the police have seized some of their catering supplies , hence the queue at McDonalds was quite long .

Meat is Murder ! especially when the Old Bill have nicked it. Personally I blame Rebekah Vardy

[Old_pie]

Great post OP!

Thanks.

I found the video I was looking for and the similarities in content, though not in delivery, are worth noting, as is the final comment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmeXI550uio

Now bearing in mind the original, Severn Cullis-Suzuki, was nearly 30yrs ago isn't that the generation that should be implementing the solutions?

[BigFatPie]

1) I would like to see Class Legal actions for any losses caused by the disruptions.

2) All protesters should agree to give up their power hungry mobile devices which use terawatts of energy driving server farms which are merely holding useless prattle, selfies etc.

3) All protestors should be forced to attend science and maths classes so that they might really understand the scale of the problem and the complex issues involved in the solutions.

4) Any protestor who chains/glues or otherwise fixes themselves to infrastructure should simply be left there.

When I can find it I'll post the poorly recycled speech of 20+ years ago that Greta Thunbderg gave.

I am not saying there isn't an issue to be addressed but I don't trust a generation of youngsters who on the whole have poor numeracy skills and cannot control themselves when it comes to fast food to find the solution through disruptive protest.

This is such a brainless post it’s quite difficult to know where to start.

Everyone who protests against climate change has to give up their phone? Really? I think homelessness is bad but I don’t give my spare room up to a homeless person. I think people starving in Africa is bad but I don’t send the contents of my fridge to Africa every night. So I’m a stinking hypocrite.

These things are always about getting governments to act. And governments rarely act by being asked nicely.

[jackal2]

There are some people who still believe that climate change is fake. There are some who believe climate change is real, but question the precise extent to which human behaviour affects it. And there are some who believe climate change is real and that human behaviour is such a significant causal factor that our ability to change such behaviour is critical to our survival.

If you're a 'true' environmentalist, and if you are in the third category that believes human beings are effectively destroying the planet and ourselves, then there's a logical case to say that the quicker we hurry up and extinguish ourselves, the better it will actually be for the planet, because mother nature would actually recover from our damaging legacy at a surprisingly fast rate if we all disappeared.

Clearly that's a highly nihilistic view so far as the human race is concerned, but if we accept for the sake of argument that we are the critical factor in climate change, then being brutally honest it seems highly unlikely to me that the human race will ever show the collective willpower, agreement, co-ordination, selflessness and sacrifice on a worldwide scale to materially change its fate.

The reality could be that human beings are and were always destined to be a passing phase in the history of the planet, whether that's because we are inherently self-destructive, or because something out of our control will eventually seal our fate, like a meteor or whatever.

Maybe our biggest dilemma is that the massive collective ego of the human race cannot quite handle the concept that we are indeed finite. Let's face it, even as individuals, many of us try not to think about the fact that we'll die one day, some of us due to less than healthy lifestyles that we never completely managed to change. It ain't a nice thought, but it's true.

[Big Bob]

Just a bunch of lay abouts with nothing else to do.

[maddogslater]

If that's not a copy and paste jackal great post

[drillerpie]

Thanks to our electoral system, if you vote Green and don't live in Brighton you are effectively disenfranchised, so I can see why they might want to take direct action.

[magpie_mania]

My opinion - Right message, wrong way of going about it.

[i961pie]

My opinion - Right message, wrong way of going about it.

Ditto

[crazyfists]

So who will sort it and how? If it's left to governments controlled by big businesses, you more than most should know that profit will come first with environmental concerns way down the list. There are two conflicting viewpoints on climate change, but surely we owe it to future generations to take a safety first approach because guessing wrong could mean the end of the planet.

Regarding Extinction Rebellion, I support their cause but have reservations about their methods. I suppose the fact that you have started a thread about them on a Notts County messageboard suggests that they are getting the publicity they are aiming for.

This. Not sure about the methods as you attract more flies with sugar than vinegar but in regards to the issue then yes thank god someone is doing something where the issue of the environment and climate change is front and centre on news reports. Whether you believe it or not, I think you'd have to be pretty simple to not acknowledge that the effects of industrial waste and processes on the planet are detrimental. Of course the protesters are seriouspies worse nightmare with some having dreadlocks and not had a bath in days! Bloody lefties caring about the environment so animals, plant life and our human generations to come have a planet to live on and enjoy. They should just sell all that down the river for a quick buck instead like all the governments have done for years.