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Thread: COVID-19 and Burnley Fans. An Opinion.

  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Coercive control plans rolled out...

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...cid=spartanntp
    Governments just love to acquire more and more control over us, especially left-wing governments and faux democracies like the EU, this virus gives them the opportunity and excuse to implement 'temporary' measures, but the temporary have the habit of becoming permanent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Governments just love to acquire more and more control over us, especially left-wing governments and faux democracies like the EU, this virus gives them the opportunity and excuse to implement 'temporary' measures, but the temporary have the habit of becoming permanent.
    Within two weeks the maximum crowd permissible in the UK has down gone from 50,000 to 50. A quite alarming loss of freedom I would suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Coercive control plans rolled out...

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coron...cid=spartanntp
    they make me Laugh.....

    It seems - the cops and mil are immune to this "Bug !....no going home for them ?





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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    "Your argument isn't quite right Sinkov.
    You can't catch Cancer and you can't catch a road death."


    Not my point Blue, despite 1,700 a year being killed in RTAs, and many, many more seriously injured, no one is discouraged by the government from travelling by road, so obviously that number of dead people is acceptable to government. Again, the number of deaths from lung cancer could be vastly reduced if the government banned the smoking of cigarettes, but they don't, so the number killed annually is acceptable to government.

    All I am pointing out is that if the carnage caused by smoking and road traffic is acceptable, then the carnage this virus is due to wreak on us must be many times greater or they wouldn't be imposing the draconian measures they are proposing. That must be correct, if it isn't then they are over-reacting, got to be one or the other.
    If you take the more practical view that the first stage of government restrictions is to stop the virus spreading quickly and thereby overwhelm the hospital and support services.

    Fights in supermarkets for toilet paper (as in Australia) is preferable to fights in the hospital car park with people seeking treatment with no hospital beds available.

    But its worth remembering that the Spanish Flu (in 1918) wiped out three times the number of people killed in the first world war.

    I din't know if the corona virus can mutate and effect far more than just babies and old folk.

    But if there is global action (with their many different political systems) all restricting people's movements any thought or conspiracy theories about unnecessary controls over people is surely out of touch with reality.

    If every country is restricting peoples movements then there is no political system that you can point to that is better then another.

    Even our Soviet friends have had a 47% increase in new Coronavirus Cases in the last 24 Hours.

  5. #15
    Australia is the perfect example of how global governance wants to end globalisation.

    They don't want free movement of people, they don't want free trade.

    They want to close their borders and run their own show.

    This virus has provided them with the perfect opportunity. God help the indigenous Australians now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Australia is the perfect example of how global governance wants to end globalisation.

    They don't want free movement of people, they don't want free trade.

    They want to close their borders and run their own show.

    This virus has provided them with the perfect opportunity. God help the indigenous Australians now.
    HA, HA, good joke BT.

    So how do you account for Australia's free trade agreements with the following:-

    Australia has 11 FTAs currently in force with China, Japan, Republic of Korea, New Zealand, Singapore, Thailand, US, Chile, the Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN) (with New Zealand), Malaysia, and Canada and Mexico (through the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership, or CPTPP).

    As the Indigenous as well as all other Australians-- are Australian--why is God's help required just for the Indigenous with regard to free trade???

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    Wery interesting ,mein Herr.

  8. #18
    Just waiting for your response blueheeler1. Now you are on the hook, when I get a minute or two I will reel you in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    Just waiting for your response blueheeler1. Now you are on the hook, when I get a minute or two I will reel you in.
    Yes well understand your style BT

    But waiting----waiting

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