O/T:- Mr George Floyd RIP

[Elite_Pie]

Just when you think Trump can't go any lower, he manages to prove you wrong. His claim that George Floyd will "hopefully be looking down and thinking what a great day it is because unemployment has fallen" just beggars belief and makes you wonder about Trump's mental state.
On the plus side, at last Joe Biden has said something worthwhile by replying "George Floyd's last words, 'I can't breathe, I can't breathe,' have echoed all across this nation...For the president to try to put any other words in the mouth of George Floyd I frankly think is despicable."

[queenslandpie]

It's not a shallow observation in my view. What can the USA do about Sudan or Syria or Afghanistan? Under Trump they are committed to withdrawal from most theatres of war and so is the UK and Australia.
The turning point was when Obama chickened out of confronting Hassad in Syria. It's too late now.

The media can freely report on the situation in Sudan and largely it chooses not to, instead focusing all its attention on in my opinion a much smaller problem in the USA is my point. What can the USA do about it? Well along with other countries it can reasonably report on the atrocities being committed to raise awareness of a global problem.

[drillerpie]

Slightly more to it than that, he was trespassing in a house that was under construction and he'd possibly been multiple times previously, if not him then someone that looked similar and there were others too, so it was an active problem that neighbours were aware of. He ran away from the building, a couple of local rednecks (that lived on the street) chased him down with guns in a pickup truck "to perform a citizens arrest", he continued to run away from them (which is fair enough if you think you can outrun armed people in a vehicle) but based on the reports and the video didn't really seem to be trying to get away from them and just before he was shot he was running towards the two armed guy's vehicle and was very close to the guy with a shotgun when he first got shot, running towards people you know are armed doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do in my opinion and it seems like he made a lot of bad decisions that cost him his life.

There's also a video of him being questioned/detained from a while back and his behavious in that doesn't paint the best picture of him but also shows police ineptitude as the second officer arrives on scene and tries to taze him almost immediately (but the tazer failed) despite the first officer already checking him for weapons.

Yeah a couple of news reports for anyone interested here.

https://youtu.be/nMzcdGotbas

https://youtu.be/3XbF7-Hk7hc

The truth will hopefully come out at the trial. In any case my point was that there has been a build up of pressure with a few high profile cases and I think the Floyd case was the last straw.

[51Magpie]

This may be a TLDR, but have a look at this for a different angle on the subject.

[maddogslater]

Queensland makes some excellent points that I agree with. Nottingham city council drumming up support for the protest in the market square ! In the middle of a pandemic seems crass to me from a social distancing point.

[DaveSmithRules]

When this unfortunate individual was allegedly suffocated by the police he was apparently high on meth, apparently used stolen money and had definitely had several previous stints in prison. As a direct result of this several hundred million (billion?) dollars worth of damage has been caused by rioters, looters, protestors and so on. Cops at fault or U.S. society? Perhaps a cunning way for Trump to hide the Corona headline? However the way the police reacted was wrong and they are nasty racist and so on according to opinion. In the meantime everyone jumps on the social media bandwagon and posts about how black lives matter and so on and so forth, most of it being a load of of token horse manure because if they don't they might lose business / popularity and so on. I'm at a loss. Still 70AU cents to the dollar again. Glad I live in nowheresville.

*******s to the USA.

Wow! "Allegedly" suffocated by the police? If you think you need to hedge your bets fair enough but there's 8 minutes and 46 seconds of video evidence doing the rounds that remove the need of that word for me. It quite clearly shows a police officer kneeling on a mans neck while he repeatedly says "I can't breathe" and "Please don't kill me."

I think it's entirely understandable why many many people are angry about this and why others are trying to listen, understand, demonstrate and change society so this doesn't keep on happening again and again. You just seem to be one of the people who has instead chosen to be angry at them for doing this. Which probably means you're a white privileged "nasty racist".

[queenslandpie]

Wow! "Allegedly" suffocated by the police? If you think you need to hedge your bets fair enough but there's 8 minutes and 46 seconds of video evidence doing the rounds that remove the need of that word for me. It quite clearly shows a police officer kneeling on a mans neck while he repeatedly says "I can't breathe" and "Please don't kill me."

I think it's entirely understandable why many many people are angry about this and why others are trying to listen, understand, demonstrate and change society so this doesn't keep on happening again and again. You just seem to be one of the people who has instead chosen to be angry at them for doing this. Which probably means you're a white privileged "nasty racist".

I think it's entirely understandable as well, it seems you have completely misinterpreted what I have said. I can tell you now that I absolutely have not lead a life of privilege as you put it. I was (am) from working class parents who had little and everything I have now I have earnt and not been given. There were no hand outs for me and no purchased University place etc. If you want to judge me on the basis of the post that's your call and I hope you have a great day.

[dam617]

Wow! "Allegedly" suffocated by the police? If you think you need to hedge your bets fair enough but there's 8 minutes and 46 seconds of video evidence doing the rounds that remove the need of that word for me. It quite clearly shows a police officer kneeling on a mans neck while he repeatedly says "I can't breathe" and "Please don't kill me."

I think it's entirely understandable why many many people are angry about this and why others are trying to listen, understand, demonstrate and change society so this doesn't keep on happening again and again. You just seem to be one of the people who has instead chosen to be angry at them for doing this. Which probably means you're a white privileged "nasty racist".

Tony Timpa. Suffocated to death by Police Officers in Dallas. Officers laughed as he was stretchered into an ambulance unconscious.

Daniel Shaver. Shot to death at point blank range whilst on his knees in a hotel corridor - Dallas again.

Numbers, in each case, of pairs of Nike's looted? Zero
Numbers of Smart TV's looted? Zero, despite footage of both incidents being readily available online.
Needless to say, they were both white.

[Elite_Pie]

Tony Timpa. Suffocated to death by Police Officers in Dallas. Officers laughed as he was stretchered into an ambulance unconscious.

Daniel Shaver. Shot to death at point blank range whilst on his knees in a hotel corridor - Dallas again.

Numbers, in each case, of pairs of Nike's looted? Zero
Numbers of Smart TV's looted? Zero, despite footage of both incidents being readily available online.
Needless to say, they were both white.

Firstly, two wrongs don't make a right.

Secondly, could I ask what websites you got your info from? I just suspect that they're websites I wouldn't tend to visit.

[Notsohumblepie]

Firstly, two wrongs don't make a right.

Secondly, could I ask what websites you got your info from? I just suspect that they're websites I wouldn't tend to visit.

Try :

Daniel Shaver story - New York Times
Tony Timpa story -The Guardian.

I’m not sure if Piers Morgan mentioned it though.