Barcelona 2 Bayern 8

[Notts78]

Who is the best player in the world in your opinion Driller?
Ronaldo?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ_dAXflfrI
Messi?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SdwUUgelJJM

[countygump]

Man City 1 Lyon 3

I thought that Pep seemed to worry too much about the opposition and changed City’s usual formation and style of play. This slightly negative approach (sound familiar!) seemed to rub off on his players who were off colour for a large part of the game. Nevertheless once City equalised I thought that they would kick on and win but then VAR entered the fray (sound familiar!). Don’t think there was any offside but Dembele who scored accidentally tripped the defender who was covering him so I think the goal should not have stood. There was still time for the miss of the season from Sterling, who had bucked the City trend and looked quite sprightly throughout the game, immediately followed by an uncharacteristic error from Ederson allowing Dembele to complete the scoring.

Whilst I am sure that Bayern will respect Lyon I don’t think they will let this affect their attacking game and should have too much for their French opponents in the second semi. Hard to see any other name, but Bayern’s, on this season’s trophy.

I just think City played badly, regardless of the formation. The turning point was the 'allowed' goal by the ref. It certainly wasn't offside but there deffo was a foul on a City defender in the build up. That sucked the life out of City and after Sterling's 'miss', the City players were heads down and gone.

[drillerpie]

He also scores goals that most can’t due to his pace. Missing opportunities is part and parcel of football. Given he is a winger, scoring the best part of 30 goals in a season puts him amongst the better players in the world. It’s not hype that any club in the world would have him.

It’s so typically English for good players to be put on a pedestal and then every opportunity we get we try and smash them off it.

People need to accept Sterling is a fine footballer with many positive attributes. Is he a clinical finisher? No. That doesn’t define him though.

Yes he is a fine footballer and yes he has many positive attributes. Finishing is quite a large part of his job however and I don't think he's very good at it, but this is glossed over as he plays for a team which can afford to miss chances.

[drillerpie]

Who is the best player in the world in your opinion Driller?
Ronaldo?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ_dAXflfrI
Messi?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SdwUUgelJJM

Just watched the video of Ronaldo and it contains a few misses going right back to his time at Man Utd, none of which were as bad as Sterling's last night.

This pretty much proves my point as with Sterling you could make a similar length video every 10 games.

I seriously hope you aren't putting Sterling in the same category as Messi and Ronaldo by the way.

[Notts78]

Yes he is a fine footballer and yes he has many positive attributes. Finishing is quite a large part of his job however and I don't think he's very good at it, but this is glossed over as he plays for a team which can afford to miss chances.

What would make him very good at it? Scoring 40, 50 goals? I find it astounding that he isn’t considered a good finisher despite 30 goals this season.
So when Messi misses chances as he does, is that glossed over because Barca create loads? The same with Ronaldo at whatever club he has been at?
All are top players playing for top clubs.

Maybe I am missing a point but I can’t see how Sterlings misses makes him ‘not a good finisher’. Sterling is not in the city side for his finishing anyway. The same could be said about Ronaldo and Messi. All are players that bring so much more to there respective teams and the fact they all score obscene numbers of goals is a part of that is a bonus and sets them apart from the rest. Lewandowski is in his side for his finishing, and believe me even he has missed sitters. He doesn’t bring much more to the table, but he doesn’t have to.
What about Stirling’s wing play? The pull back that created De Bruyns goal. That is his bread and butter. That’s his primary role as a winger.

[drillerpie]

What would make him very good at it? Scoring 40, 50 goals? I find it astounding that he isn’t considered a good finisher despite 30 goals this season.
So when Messi misses chances as he does, is that glossed over because Barca create loads? The same with Ronaldo at whatever club he has been at?
All are top players playing for top clubs.

Maybe I am missing a point but I can’t see how Sterlings misses makes him ‘not a good finisher’. Sterling is not in the city side for his finishing anyway. The same could be said about Ronaldo and Messi. All are players that bring so much more to there respective teams and the fact they all score obscene numbers of goals is a part of that is a bonus and sets them apart from the rest. Lewandowski is in his side for his finishing, and believe me even he has missed sitters. He doesn’t bring much more to the table, but he doesn’t have to.
What about Stirling’s wing play? The pull back that created De Bruyns goal. That is his bread and butter. That’s his primary role as a winger.

What I'm saying about Sterling is really a simple concept: yes all attacking players (including Messi and Ronaldo) miss a certain proportion of their easy chances, but Sterling misses a higher proportion of easy chances than other attacking players.

[drillerpie]

(In my opinion)

[i961pie]

Yes he is a fine footballer and yes he has many positive attributes. Finishing is quite a large part of his job however and I don't think he's very good at it, but this is glossed over as he plays for a team which can afford to miss chances.

A couple of seasons ago I would have agreed with you about his finishing but not now.
It is the one part of his game that's improved beyond doubt and he doesn't miss as many has you are making out imo.

[drillerpie]

A couple of seasons ago I would have agreed with you about his finishing but not now.
It is the one part of his game that's improved beyond doubt and he doesn't miss as many has you are making out imo.

I actually agree that his finishing has improved but I still think he misses too many. I think it's a psychological thing and he panics or freezes, if he has too much time to think then his final ball is often poor as well for the same reason.

[Old_pie]

What would make him very good at it? Scoring 40, 50 goals? I find it astounding that he isn’t considered a good finisher despite 30 goals this season.
So when Messi misses chances as he does, is that glossed over because Barca create loads? The same with Ronaldo at whatever club he has been at?
All are top players playing for top clubs.

Maybe I am missing a point but I can’t see how Sterlings misses makes him ‘not a good finisher’. Sterling is not in the city side for his finishing anyway. The same could be said about Ronaldo and Messi. All are players that bring so much more to there respective teams and the fact they all score obscene numbers of goals is a part of that is a bonus and sets them apart from the rest. Lewandowski is in his side for his finishing, and believe me even he has missed sitters. He doesn’t bring much more to the table, but he doesn’t have to.
What about Stirling’s wing play? The pull back that created De Bruyns goal. That is his bread and butter. That’s his primary role as a winger.

Confused now Are we talking about Sterling or Stirling? One is money and the other is a city. There's a football player who earns lots of £stg but he doesn't come from Stirling as far as I know.