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    I think that the liberal snowflake brigade are really are on an enormous bandwagon at the moment only to happy to call people out who dare to differ in opinion. Seems if you dare to criticise the BLM movement there's a big queue ready to label you a nazi or a white supremacist. These people really are dangerous as they seem all to keen to find division where there most likely isn't any.

    Seems everyone gets offended these days with a fair few quite happy to take offence on others behalf. I agree it would have been nice to see some footballers acting in the way the rugby players did. Fair play to the F1 drivers as well who refused to be bullied by Lewis Hamilton for daring to disagree with the Marxist politics of the BLM movement.

    I see the latest to fall foul of The Mob is Ant Middleton. He's had to resign from his Navy post due to comments stating he was against all extremists who riot on the streets comparing BLM with The EDF. Seems that despite being an ex SAS veteran and doing loads of good charity work that it isn't enough so the Navy were reportedly going to sack him due to the outcry of the snowflakes. It really is the tail wagging the dog at the moment with a small minority aided by certain media luvvies making volumes of noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westcountryvillain View Post
    The kneeling during the US national anthem is a peaceful protest in a democracy where freedom of expression is allowed, it got the attention of the president and no-one should ever be compelled to do the bidding of the masses just because they happen to have a difference of opinion. People after all fought and died to protect these freedoms; over here we currently have people being labelled racist or gammon if they so much as dare to express a thought that challenges wokeness narratives.

    This in turn creates a culture of fear of speaking out which is exactly the intent of groups such as Antifa and BLM, they are exactly what they claim to be protesting against. Twitter is an absolute vipers nest full of them, I feel there is a simmering resentment that will one day boil over and the authorities lack the numbers to deal with it.
    Brilliant post.

    “wokeness narratives”.......in a nutshell,yes!

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    Surely this practice won't continue prior to every Premier League game this coming season. Anyway, to routinely do it would devalue the ideology behind it. The only way to improve things is to clamp down on real racist crimes and not to pander to the 'snowflakes' who can find injustice in any given situation. Instead of harping back to the wrong doings of hundreds of years ago they would be far better employed in fighting slavery in today's society where it is rife. You only have to look at the sweat shops in Leicester.
    My worry is that the 'Black Lives Matter' campaigne could set back race relations years and do the opposite to what was intended. Don't pay lip service to it by 'Taking the Knee' before every sporting event but put into practice tolerance in everyday life as that is what will iliminate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leicesterbaggie View Post
    Surely this practice won't continue prior to every Premier League game this coming season. Anyway, to routinely do it would devalue the ideology behind it. The only way to improve things is to clamp down on real racist crimes and not to pander to the 'snowflakes' who can find injustice in any given situation. Instead of harping back to the wrong doings of hundreds of years ago they would be far better employed in fighting slavery in today's society where it is rife. You only have to look at the sweat shops in Leicester.
    My worry is that the 'Black Lives Matter' campaigne could set back race relations years and do the opposite to what was intended. Don't pay lip service to it by 'Taking the Knee' before every sporting event but put into practice tolerance in everyday life as that is what will iliminate it.
    You mean do something that might actually 'make a difference.' agree totally about having the opposite effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leicesterbaggie View Post
    My worry is that the 'Black Lives Matter' campaigne could set back race relations years
    I think it already has , I've always considered the world to be in a state of equilibrium and the harder they push the harder the push back at them. The younger generation needs to lift its head up out of the phone and wake-up to wokeness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by westcountryvillain View Post
    I think it already has , I've always considered the world to be in a state of equilibrium and the harder they push the harder the push back at them. The younger generation needs to lift its head up out of the phone and wake-up to wokeness!
    I like this post a lot

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    Quote Originally Posted by westcountryvillain View Post
    I think it already has , I've always considered the world to be in a state of equilibrium and the harder they push the harder the push back at them. The younger generation needs to lift its head up out of the phone and wake-up to wokeness!

    Totally agree!! Too many hypocrites!! Take Deli Ali - it was ok for him to racially abuse an Asian man regarding the virus but god help anyone who says the wrong thing watching football!!

    As already said - hypocrites and taking the knee is now boring and actually introducing a circus into sport!!!

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    I read about the Sale players on the BBC Website which seemed to suggest but not explicitly state footballers are instructed by their clubs to do the knee thing but Union leaves it to individuals. Does anyone know for a fact football clubs issue it as an instruction?

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    WCV, your posts on this subject have been excellent but with so much common sense, shouldn’t you be a ‘Baggie’?

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