Joe Fitzpatrick MSP for Dundee West amd Sprts minister

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You only need to live in the constituency if you require an answer.

There i# nothing to stop Dundee supporters living in other constituencies complaining to their own MSP.
It is waste of time me complaining to my MSP Michael Russelll as he will do nothing about it. Michael Russel admitted you me in an email that he believes that a generation can be as little as four years long.

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There i# nothing to stop Dundee supporters living in other constituencies complaining to their own MSP.
It is waste of time me complaining to my MSP Michael Russelll as he will do nothing about it. Michael Russel admitted you me in an email that he believes that a generation can be as little as four years long.

Lol.

I always thought a generation was 30 years.

That's a big difference of opinion.

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A 'generation' is defined as 'all of the people born and living at the same time' so in fact Islay's nemesis isn't wrong in saying that a generation can be as little as four years. By that definition it can actually be an even shorter time than that just as easily as it can be a considerably longer time as the element of 'time' is not specifically quantified within the definition.

Having said that a 'generation' can also be fairly defined as 'the average period during which people are born, grow up, become adults and begin to produce further offspring'. By this definition the term 'generation' is generally considered to be between 20 and 30 years. However social pressures act constantly on this number. For example as improved career and life opportunities become more available to women the average age of first time births in the UK as a whole is increasing being around 26 in 1975 and over 30 in 2014. The same is true of first time fathers with average age of first time fathers being around 33. This clearly increases the 'time' element of what is considered to be a generation.

In summary a generation is not a definite period of time or definite group of individuals, it can be as short or as long as the individual chooses it to be or can even be a number of individuals within an arbitrary population.

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A 'generation' is defined as 'all of the people born and living at the same time' so in fact Islay's nemesis isn't wrong in saying that a generation can be as little as four years. By that definition it can actually be an even shorter time than that just as easily as it can be a considerably longer time as the element of 'time' is not specifically quantified within the definition.

Having said that a 'generation' can also be fairly defined as 'the average period during which people are born, grow up, become adults and begin to produce further offspring'. By this definition the term 'generation' is generally considered to be between 20 and 30 years. However social pressures act constantly on this number. For example as improved career and life opportunities become more available to women the average age of first time births in the UK as a whole is increasing being around 26 in 1975 and over 30 in 2014. The same is true of first time fathers with average age of first time fathers being around 33. This clearly increases the 'time' element of what is considered to be a generation.

In summary a generation is not a definite period of time or definite group of individuals, it can be as short or as long as the individual chooses it to be or can even be a number of individuals within an arbitrary population.

When slabbery chops said "a once in a generation vote".....what length of time did you take him to mean?

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When slabbery chops said "a once in a generation vote".....what length of time did you take him to mean?

Unless the time element of 'generation' was specified at the it could be taken to mean anything from zero to infinity.

If you're asking me for a personal consideration or opinion of the length of time that may reasonably constitute a generation I'd have to say a minimum twenty years. However as someone who would, for personal and probably vindictive reasons, love to see independence in my lifetime I'd like to shrink it to four years in agreement with the MSP Michael Russell. The one and only time I'll agree with any politician.

[noahrab]

When slabbery chops said "a once in a generation vote".....what length of time did you take him to mean?

His pet name is ‘sleepy cuddles’.

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Unless the time element of 'generation' was specified at the it could be taken to mean anything from zero to infinity.

If you're asking me for a personal consideration or opinion of the length of time that may reasonably constitute a generation I'd have to say a minimum twenty years. However as someone who would, for personal and probably vindictive reasons, love to see independence in my lifetime I'd like to shrink it to four years in agreement with the MSP Michael Russell. The one and only time I'll agree with any politician.

Hi Deeranged, I don't understand the logic behind this statement. Am i to assume that you expect independence to be a disaster and you have predicted this so would like the opportunity for a big I TOLD YOU SO? Or is it that you actually want independence so that guys who doubt the wisdom of such a choice, like Rross, Islay and me, will be made to suffer for our doubting? geniunely intrigued.

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Hi Deeranged, I don't understand the logic behind this statement. Am i to assume that you expect independence to be a disaster and you have predicted this so would like the opportunity for a big I TOLD YOU SO? Or is it that you actually want independence so that guys who doubt the wisdom of such a choice, like Rross, Islay and me, will be made to suffer for our doubting? geniunely intrigued.

12 years in the RAF both witnessing and being subjected to institutional racism at the hands of our English masters has caused me to dislike them as a nation. Obviously some are OK and it isn't fair to judge them all by the same standard but in my experience at least 90% of them have no time for Scotland and us 'Sweaty Socks', Wales and the Welsh, Northern Ireland and the 'Thick Paddies' or any immigrant of any origin who should all just go home - even if they're naturalised English and are actually 'home'.

Even back as far as 1986 English bigots were telling me they'd rather have an England devoid of Jocks, Taffs, Paddies, P____, Sp___, W___ and anyone that isn't pure bred white English.

They're welcome to it in my opinion.

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12 years in the RAF both witnessing and being subjected to institutional racism at the hands of our English masters has caused me to dislike them as a nation. Obviously some are OK and it isn't fair to judge them all by the same standard but in my experience at least 90% of them have no time for Scotland and us 'Sweaty Socks', Wales and the Welsh, Northern Ireland and the 'Thick Paddies' or any immigrant of any origin who should all just go home - even if they're naturalised English and are actually 'home'.

Even back as far as 1986 English bigots were telling me they'd rather have an England devoid of Jocks, Taffs, Paddies, P____, Sp___, W___ and anyone that isn't pure bred white English.

They're welcome to it in my opinion.

Anyone else on here think they have ‘masters’, of any nationality?

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Anyone else on here think they have ‘masters’, of any nationality?

No.

I actually think we have it pretty guid.

I know a few London guys now and I feel pretty sorry for them with the mass immigration that's took over their major cities down there.

I see England as rivals at sport and good for ripping the pish from time to time but actually dislike weegies, Lochee weegies and Aberdonians far more.

Fife ****s I just ignore.