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    In all honesty, Benny, I've got to say I'm probably not going to watch it.

    Will it make me change my views on them for the worse? Probably, based on what you've said. Will it change my mind about wanting them to complete the takeover? absolutely not. I don't think many people doubt that there are high-up elements of the Saudis who are an extremely nasty bunch, but I also think there are people who are desperate to engage and to help the country change.

    But, I'm not sure any of us have the heart for this discussion right now, Benny, because every thought on the matter is entirely redundant unless the takeover becomes a live issue again. I agree, it is worth discussing...but not at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    In all honesty, Benny, I've got to say I'm probably not going to watch it.

    Will it make me change my views on them for the worse? Probably, based on what you've said. Will it change my mind about wanting them to complete the takeover? absolutely not. I don't think many people doubt that there are high-up elements of the Saudis who are an extremely nasty bunch, but I also think there are people who are desperate to engage and to help the country change.

    But, I'm not sure any of us have the heart for this discussion right now, Benny, because every thought on the matter is entirely redundant unless the takeover becomes a live issue again. I agree, it is worth discussing...but not at the moment.
    Fair enough.

    Movie just came out hence the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    In all honesty, Benny, I've got to say I'm probably not going to watch it.

    Will it make me change my views on them for the worse? Probably, based on what you've said. Will it change my mind about wanting them to complete the takeover? absolutely not. I don't think many people doubt that there are high-up elements of the Saudis who are an extremely nasty bunch, but I also think there are people who are desperate to engage and to help the country change.

    But, I'm not sure any of us have the heart for this discussion right now, Benny, because every thought on the matter is entirely redundant unless the takeover becomes a live issue again. I agree, it is worth discussing...but not at the moment.
    Personally I think the whole subject has been done to death on here. How many threads about this as he hoyed up here now. Its bait if you ask me to wind up a volatile fanbase as we are at the moment. And yet again I will say it, I won't and haven't shed a tear for a terrorist sympathiser like that journalist with his fake fiancé
    Maybe more concern should be given for the thousands that are losing their lives to covid. I look forward to him putting threads up about who was and is to blame for this. Will he fùck because it won't get the desired reaction.
    And for the record, any Newcastle fan that tries to wind up and score points off fellow fans for the failed takeover and predicament of the club is nothing short of a cùnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geordie1974 View Post
    Personally I think the whole subject has been done to death on here. How many threads about this as he hoyed up here now. Its bait if you ask me to wind up a volatile fanbase as we are at the moment. And yet again I will say it, I won't and haven't shed a tear for a terrorist sympathiser like that journalist with his fake fiancé
    Maybe more concern should be given for the thousands that are losing their lives to covid. I look forward to him putting threads up about who was and is to blame for this. Will he fùck because it won't get the desired reaction.
    And for the record, any Newcastle fan that tries to wind up and score points off fellow fans for the failed takeover and predicament of the club is nothing short of a cùnt.
    I didn't know Khashoggi was a terrorist sympathiser, I thought he was writing uncomfortable columns in US papers about MBS. Ah feck, i'm going to have to watch it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal View Post
    I didn't know Khashoggi was a terrorist sympathiser, .
    Oh, hugely....mates with Bin Laden and the Al-Qaida founder, supported Hamas. Will be interesting to see if this angle is covered in that film.

    You'll have to tell me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    Oh, hugely....mates with Bin Laden and the Al-Qaida founder, supported Hamas. Will be interesting to see if this angle is covered in that film.

    You'll have to tell me.
    Yep, Khashoggi used to do public/press relations for Bin Laden back when he was in exile in Sudan and his early days in Afghanistan, but fell out after 9/11. Doesn't condone his gruesome murder but he was certainly not some whiter than white journalist that wrote a few disapproving articles.

    Do I think that Saudi is a horrible regime? Yes. Do I think that they would have made good owners of Newcastle United? Also yes, and I still hope they become so. Am I a hypocrite, possibly, but I don't think anything is truly black or white. Well, apart from the obvious, and also my cats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xamand View Post
    Yep, Khashoggi used to do public/press relations for Bin Laden back when he was in exile in Sudan and his early days in Afghanistan, but fell out after 9/11.
    Pretty good reason for falling out with someone, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippity View Post
    Oh, hugely....mates with Bin Laden and the Al-Qaida founder, supported Hamas. Will be interesting to see if this angle is covered in that film.

    You'll have to tell me.
    Too much spam on the link. However, reading up on Mr Khashoggi tells me he was deep in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal View Post
    Too much spam on the link. However, reading up on Mr Khashoggi tells me he was deep in it.
    Ad-blocker for your internet browser

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    Seems like quite a harmless thread to me?

    When it comes to the Pboro or Ghostrider level of winding folks up, it's gone too far. But to have a different opinion from your own on a matter that divides people so much in general, and where it's hard to tell right from wrong, that's a different thing. We should have room for that.

    Hey, let's just all agree here; Bruce is one sh!tty coach.

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