Is recruitment likely to drive ground improvement

[BarnsleyDaft]

Because all ive ever cared about is watching my team on Saturday. So all i care about is how strong/week we are.. and in my shallow life wins make me happy. Draws are meh. And losses make me unhappy

[Young_Nudger]

My opinion is this .

Its difficult to for me to accept an ownership who have absolutely no intention of using their own funds to invest in their own business .

The above is not to be confused with moronic bankrolling such as that idiot at S6 .

Investing themselves to make the club more valuable at the point of sale so as to achieve a profit .

Does that sound unreasonable ? .

I choose the word investing please note and not donating .

Why not invest in electronic advertising to raise revenue streams .

Why don't the owners sponsor the shirts ?

What about sponsoring the ground ?

I'm not so much a dinosaur that I wouldn't be totally against that if the money was right because it would be always Oakwell to me .

Instead we've owners who haven't even paid for the club four years in .

If that's modern business today and floats your boat and you are prepared to accept it then that's up to you .

No it’s NOT being unreasonable.
As everyone on here has their point of view and we want to hear it.
But what I would say is that your view is misguided - because like me, you don’t seem to understand how business people of this type of wealth operates.

I’m a very old fashioned working person - who only understand a process where you work, save and spend.
I’ve created a decent sized business but I still consider myself a miner - principally because of how I deal with money.

Wealthy business people don’t see money like this - they see money as a way of making money - no matter who’s money it is they are spending.
A good example of this is Richard Branson - he sees a business he thinks he can improve - and then brings in investment to pay for his ideas.

Chien Lee and his colleagues see Barnsley Football Club a bit like that.
Im sure they get pleasure from owning Barnsley - Chien wouldn’t have flown over for the playoffs if he had no interest - but it’s also a business that they intend to build and make better.
….. as they said…… ‘we won’t go crazy’
But they will build a layer of bricks at a time

[animallittle3]

No it’s NOT being unreasonable.
As everyone on here has their point of view and we want to hear it.
But what I would say is that your view is misguided - because like me, you don’t seem to understand how business people of this type of wealth operates.

I’m a very old fashioned working person - who only understand a process where you work, save and spend.
I’ve created a decent sized business but I still consider myself a miner - principally because of how I deal with money.

Wealthy business people don’t see money like this - they see money as a way of making money - no matter who’s money it is they are spending.
A good example of this is Richard Branson - he sees a business he thinks he can improve - and then brings in investment to pay for his ideas.

Chien Lee and his colleagues see Barnsley Football Club a bit like that.
Im sure they get pleasure from owning Barnsley - Chien wouldn’t have flown over for the playoffs if he had no interest - but it’s also a business that they intend to build and make better.
….. as they said…… ‘we won’t go crazy’
But they will build a layer of bricks at a time

The ownership relies on the income the club generates itself for growth .

That may well be successful to an extent on the field depending on what your idea of success is of course .

The current model may well sustain championship football although in my opinion it's particularly exposed if it has a poor transfer window .

Your opening post indicated success on the field and ground improvements going hand in hand .

My opinion is it won't happen without firstly total ownership of the stadium and secondly investment from the consortium .

And on both counts I'm confident enough to say neither will happen .

[SBRed48]

Im sure they get pleasure from owning Barnsley - Chien wouldn’t have flown over for the playoffs if he had no interest - but it’s also a business that they intend to build and make better.
…..

Chien Lee only flew in to Barnsley because---

1 There was a whiff of possible Premiership money in the air

2 He likes being linked to "success and glory" in his global tweets to be seen by other global businesses and business publications

Failed on both counts. Been the usual absentee owner since.

[animallittle3]

My own personal view is that because of the ground situation the consortium will look to sell the club before too long if that process hasn't already started .

That's compounded by the UK's decision to leave the European Union which could possibly have some implications with their multi clubs strategy .

My feeling is that the consortium's multi club strategy across Europe leaves ourselves a little isolated from the rest of their stable and coupled with the ground issues they deem it not worth the effort for what little if any profit there is here .

I'd personally welcome new ownership whether local or abroad who would focus solely on this club and this club alone .

[animallittle3]

So the consortium cheer leaders go remarkably quiet .

[pass_and_move]

Unless there's a Steve Gibson type wealthy Barnsley fan out there willing not only to buy the club but invest in it too, then I'm failing to see what the alternative option is owner wise other than the foreign businesspeople who currently run it.

The way I see it is that whoever owns/runs the club from now onwards will have no connection to this town or the club. Thus constantly raising the usual doubts, the lack of trust etc as well as the various questions that have been raised over the last 4 years about their intentions and why they're here.

Please can anybody on here who is opposed to the current owners tell me a realistic alternative to what we currently have? What exactly are you expecting? Where do you think it's going to come from and what makes you think it could be better than what we currently have?

[Redrascal]

I dont want them to own ground,we all know how certain people who claimed to save the club,took a loan out with a high interest rate knowing full well they were making money on club weather it got bought of them or knocked down and land built on,cryne n council,we all knew,so council own some of it,end of.if we get a side who command 16,000 season tickets we can av away end,thats my view.

[yorkshireborn]

i have no problem if they owned the ground 100% it would get redeveloped, but in this they own this they own that and someone has this the ground will not get redeveloped in fact they is more chance we could move. in fact the more i think about it the more i agree it should be 100% owned by the club.

[pass_and_move]

My own personal view is that because of the ground situation the consortium will look to sell the club before too long if that process hasn't already started .

That's compounded by the UK's decision to leave the European Union which could possibly have some implications with their multi clubs strategy .

My feeling is that the consortium's multi club strategy across Europe leaves ourselves a little isolated from the rest of their stable and coupled with the ground issues they deem it not worth the effort for what little if any profit there is here .

I'd personally welcome new ownership whether local or abroad who would focus solely on this club and this club alone .

On the contrary Animal. The consortium may have multi clubs across Europe but al tell thi nar, not one of them has the same potential profit wise as BFC. The fact that the English Premier league is the richest and most widely watched in the world dangles a carrot that this consortium simply find too tempting and a reward that they can't ignore.

If we were to reach the Premiership then the value of this club would increase astronomically. That has to be the goal for the consortium and this isolates Barnsley FC from the rest of the European clubs in their portfolio. Barring the French league, the Dutch, Danish, Swiss and Belgian top leagues are smaller than the championship and absolutely nowhere near the Premiership financially.

Conway and co have said they're here long term to build the club and with their game plan in buying and selling players are looking like they can possibly achieve promotion to the Premiership here without spending their own money. With that in mind then why would they want to kill the goose that potentially lays the golden egg?