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  1. #1
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    Good post Pedro….a little bit biased in IB’s favour though?!

    I feel IB has done really well so far, like you said it didn’t take him long before getting the team to play attacking and exciting football after a difficult start before losing a host of important players at the end of the season and having to perform a bit of a rebuild.

    He has brought in some more exciting young talent and continued to improve the current players and we are starting to witness what this team is all about. I’m of the feeling at the minute that this season may be a little too soon for us to mount a serious challenge, but who knows? Jacob mentioned in an earlier post about us lacking that killer instinct, and I think he is right. The ingredients are all there now, they just need to believe they can do it now….an away win against the league leaders on Saturday may well just propel that mentality to the required level.

    My big question is what will happen when Rodrigues leaves? He could well be the first product of the football radar system, where we sell on for a profit. Will the owners use that money to seriously strengthen in buying a proven ‘Luke Rodgers’ type to play alongside Wootton, or will it be another prospect? The magpie circle posdcast speculated we could get about 200k for him. Whilst losing him would be a blow it would at least give us some serious clout in getting a replacement…or even two.

    It’s important we keep in touch with the top two, so when it all clicks we don’t have a serious mountain to climb. Fingers crossed 🤞

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSANHO View Post
    Good post Pedro….a little bit biased in IB’s favour though?!

    I feel IB has done really well so far, like you said it didn’t take him long before getting the team to play attacking and exciting football after a difficult start before losing a host of important players at the end of the season and having to perform a bit of a rebuild.

    He has brought in some more exciting young talent and continued to improve the current players and we are starting to witness what this team is all about. I’m of the feeling at the minute that this season may be a little too soon for us to mount a serious challenge, but who knows? Jacob mentioned in an earlier post about us lacking that killer instinct, and I think he is right. The ingredients are all there now, they just need to believe they can do it now….an away win against the league leaders on Saturday may well just propel that mentality to the required level.

    My big question is what will happen when Rodrigues leaves? He could well be the first product of the football radar system, where we sell on for a profit. Will the owners use that money to seriously strengthen in buying a proven ‘Luke Rodgers’ type to play alongside Wootton, or will it be another prospect? The magpie circle posdcast speculated we could get about 200k for him. Whilst losing him would be a blow it would at least give us some serious clout in getting a replacement…or even two.

    It’s important we keep in touch with the top two, so when it all clicks we don’t have a serious mountain to climb. Fingers crossed ��
    oh for a Luke Rogers ! loved him to bits

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    Quote Originally Posted by TSANHO View Post
    My big question is what will happen when Rodrigues leaves? He could well be the first product of the football radar system, where we sell on for a profit. Will the owners use that money to seriously strengthen in buying a proven ‘Luke Rodgers’ type to play alongside Wootton, or will it be another prospect? The magpie circle posdcast speculated we could get about 200k for him. Whilst losing him would be a blow it would at least give us some serious clout in getting a replacement…or even two.

    It’s important we keep in touch with the top two, so when it all clicks we don’t have a serious mountain to climb. Fingers crossed 爛
    Transfermarkt currently have Ruben at £405k and although it's not necessarily always bang on with valuations it's often not far out. Also, that £405k was last updated in June 2020!

    If we were to let him go in January then £500k has to be the absolute minimum in the current market. With regards to replacing him that's where the moneyball approach steps in. I would put my house on it that the club are already working on finding the next Ruben or Roberts in readiness for their departure as and when it should happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncfcog View Post
    Transfermarkt currently have Ruben at £405k and although it's not necessarily always bang on with valuations it's often not far out. Also, that £405k was last updated in June 2020!

    If we were to let him go in January then £500k has to be the absolute minimum in the current market. With regards to replacing him that's where the moneyball approach steps in. I would put my house on it that the club are already working on finding the next Ruben or Roberts in readiness for their departure as and when it should happen.
    The question is what level Ruben can play at, which may the determine the size of bid coming in for him. I’d say League 1, though are still question marks about his stamina. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think there are many signings made for over a few hundred grand at that level, and even then there aren’t many clubs with those funds.

    The nightmare scenario would be if someone like Wrexham or Stockport came in with a decent bid. Or Mansfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nw6pie View Post
    The question is what level Ruben can play at, which may the determine the size of bid coming in for him. I’d say League 1, though are still question marks about his stamina. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think there are many signings made for over a few hundred grand at that level, and even then there aren’t many clubs with those funds.

    The nightmare scenario would be if someone like Wrexham or Stockport came in with a decent bid. Or Mansfield.
    I think he needs more consistency to justify some of the potential fees mentioned. When Ruben is good he's really good, but he's also had a few ineffective games this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenslandpie View Post
    However at the start of the season you would have thought we could generate enough goals from Rodders Wootton and Roberts to do the job. Not entirely sure that is still the case.
    What’s changed re the 3? Between them, they’ve scored 16 in 13 games and limited appearances from Roberts.

    Of course, if we sell one that will impact on the goals return.

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    Really good post Pedro.

    Agree about lacking a regular killer instinct at present which is obviously costly.

    Interesting to hear a valuation of Rùben of circa £200K (I'd be hoping for more even at this level) . If he does indeed prove to be the first of hopefully many radar successes as TSANHO rightly says how they spend the money will be very interesting. Agree with a lot of that follow up post.

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    An interesting thread, and obviously it is all about opinions.

    A little biased towards IB and against NA in the opening paragraph. Yes it was time to make a change though.

    Is IB system the way to get out of this league? I am still not sure on that. Play-offs is imo an absolute minimum for this season, we still need a couple of players - as so many say, a tough midfielder and a good forward. I was really hoping that Lewis Knight might have been that player, but who knows what is happening there. I also feel that we need good competition for SS in goal.

    Really interesting season though with some of the 'big boys' e.g. Wrexham and Stockport not finding it so easy as I think they thought it would be.

    I agree with the point made earlier that it should be all about this season with so many games to go. If we can beat Grimsby then 7 points from the last 3 games will be a very good return.

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    Rodders for 200k !!! You must be joking - if he carries on improving he should command at least £500k at the end of the season. (After we have got promoted of course)

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpie_mania View Post
    I agree with the point made earlier that it should be all about this season with so many games to go. If we can beat Grimsby then 7 points from the last 3 games will be a very good return.
    10 points from the last 4 league games.

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