Ismael gets his man!

[animallittle3]

Am still wondering how some o our fans thowt we could possibly afford Dike

Especially given the fact we haven't kept any star player at the club since Redders and that's way way before this model was ever conceived .

We even managed to feck that up eventually and not pay him the money the man deserved even with parachute payments .

[Young_Nudger]

Some have short memories.
This time last year.
Listen back to the BBC Radio Sheffield interviews.
Dane Murphy - we have signed Daryl Dike on loan with a view to a permanent signing if he is successfully and the fee agreed with Orlando is within budget.

He didn’t say that once - he said it a few times.
It was also reported in the press.

There was a bit of controversy at the time because Orlando was saying something different - but Dane Murphy continued to insist Dike was ours if we wanted him.

Well IMO Dike was a big success - so much so that he would most likely have made all the difference this season between survival and what looks like nailed on relegation.
Massive loss to the club.

So what happened?
Either we were openly lied to and a fee hadn’t been agreed.
Or something else occurred that hasn’t been disclosed.

[Young_Nudger]

PS …… when Dane Murphy left Barnsley - do people remember the absence of a public Ta Ta letter from the club.

Make of that what you will.

[animallittle3]

Some have short memories.
This time last year.
Listen back to the BBC Radio Sheffield interviews.
Dane Murphy - we have signed Daryl Dike on loan with a view to a permanent signing if he is successfully and the fee agreed with Orlando is within budget.

He didn’t say that once - he said it a few times.
It was also reported in the press.

There was a bit of controversy at the time because Orlando was saying something different - but Dane Murphy continued to insist Dike was ours if we wanted him.

Well IMO Dike was a big success - so much so that he would most likely have made all the difference this season between survival and what looks like nailed on relegation.
Massive loss to the club.

So what happened?
Either we were openly lied to and a fee hadn’t been agreed.
Or something else occurred that hasn’t been disclosed.

You clearly don't see the small print do you ?

What's within budget ?

Is the budget set irrespective of events ?

Do budgets not change due to events and circumstances ?

You think a 20 year old full USA international who scored goals here at a rate of one in two in the championship was ever going to be available at £1m at the end of the season ?

Agreed in what respect ?

Verbally perhaps or ink on a pre contract agreement ?

Dear fecking God .

[animallittle3]

PS …… when Dane Murphy left Barnsley - do people remember the absence of a public Ta Ta letter from the club.

Make of that what you will.

You not think Dane couldn't see through these shytehouses and got out at the first opportunity ?

The same as many did following the fourth most successful season on the pitch in the clubs 134 year history .

He had a job to do here and one he did very well in my opinion and if it wasn't for him Dike wouldn't even have signed on loan for us a year ago .

Stendel was one of the most popular managers we've had at this club and had a similar statement when he left .

Make of that what you will with these scumbags who own us .

[pass_and_move]

Especially given the fact we haven't kept any star player at the club since Redders and that's way way before this model was ever conceived .

We even managed to feck that up eventually and not pay him the money the man deserved even with parachute payments .

To be fair we kept Hammill here after Wembley 2016 when the majority of our fans thowt he'd leave on a free. Having said that, I reckon Adam would av laiked for us on minimum wage with the adulation he received here and his clear love of the club.

It broke my heart but also enraged me when reading Redders book and the way he described leaving Oakwell cos they wouldn't give him parity in wages with the top earners. I know he was knocking on but at the end of the day he spent a further 2 seasons in the Premiership wi Charlton and Bradford. He was prepared to sacrifice laikin at the top level to help us try and get back up.

When he left we brought in Kevin Richardson who was with all due respect, way over the hill. We also brought in Robin Van De Laan who was a very good player but not in Redders class imo. Meks thi think- the transfer fees and wages that we paid Richardson and Van de Laan would've easily covered a Redders wage rise. The board fecked up monumentally wi that one I feel as they did by appointing Hendrie too hastily.

[animallittle3]

To be fair we kept Hammill here after Wembley 2016 when the majority of our fans thowt he'd leave on a free. Having said that, I reckon Adam would av laiked for us on minimum wage with the adulation he received here and his clear love of the club.

It broke my heart but also enraged me when reading Redders book and the way he described leaving Oakwell cos they wouldn't give him parity in wages with the top earners. I know he was knocking on but at the end of the day he spent a further 2 seasons in the Premiership wi Charlton and Bradford. He was prepared to sacrifice laikin at the top level to help us try and get back up.



When he left we brought in Kevin Richardson who was with all due respect, way over the hill. We also brought in Robin Van De Laan who was a very good player but not in Redders class imo. Meks thi think- the transfer fees and wages that we paid Richardson and Van de Laan would've easily covered a Redders wage rise. The board fecked up monumentally wi that one I feel as they did by appointing Hendrie too hastily.

One of the biggest mistakes this club ever made letting Redders leave in my opinion Pass .

He was at the top of his game , he was a slow burn as a younger player and initially when he joined us in 1991 .

14 goals from midfield in the PL in a relegated team ....... ffs !!!

Imagine him and Hignett together in our midfield back then ?

Redders was our driving force , inspiration and the best captain I've ever seen at Oakwell .

Complete legend , our Robson , our Keane , our Kompany .

He loved the club , all he wanted was paying what he rightly should have received .

Tinkler was on more money , feck me .

[Young_Nudger]

You clearly don't see the small print do you ?

What's within budget ?

Is the budget set irrespective of events ?

Do budgets not change due to events and circumstances ?

You think a 20 year old full USA international who scored goals here at a rate of one in two in the championship was ever going to be available at £1m at the end of the season ?

Agreed in what respect ?

Verbally perhaps or ink on a pre contract agreement ?

Dear fecking God .

No I don’t see the small print.
And neither do you.

The budget is inconsequential.
The main point here is the AGREEMENT.
And Dane repeatedly said an agreement to buy had been made.

Supporters are taking the easy way out if they think that Dike did not sign because he was too expensive for the club.
That is NOT the case.
Because the club specifically said that this was NOT the case.

If Dane had not said - ‘if he is successful then Barnsley has the option of buying him and a fee has been agreed that is within Barnsley’s budget’ - then of course no one would have been any wiser and supporters would have assumed that his value was too expensive for Barnsley to buy.
But this did not happen.

Personally - I think Dane was telling the truth.
But what has happened here is that Barnsley have taken a huge risk with Dike.
Not all risks are successful - an obvious example of that is Obbi.

But the risk with Dike paid off big time - and in no time at all he was being valued at £15m to £20m.
Inside a couple of months managers such as Warnock are describing Dike as the best in the division.

I think the small print has played a part - because of Dikes success - Orlando have found a loophole to haul him back.
And has that had any barring on Danes time at Barnsley?

Because on paper - say an agreement of £3m had been agreed.
Dike has another season with us - I’m sure we wouldn’t be in this position if he was still here.
But we sell him for £15m in the summer.

Barnsley finish the 21/22 season mid table with a profit of £12m in the bank.
Win Win.

But instead of that.
Dike goes back without any explanation whatsoever.
Barnsley are more or less nailed on for relegation.
And Dane Murphy leaves soon after Dike without a single word of thanks from the club.

[pass_and_move]

One of the biggest mistakes this club ever made letting Redders leave in my opinion Pass .

He was at the top of his game , he was a slow burn as a younger player and initially when he joined us in 1991 .

14 goals from midfield in the PL in a relegated team ....... ffs !!!

Imagine him and Hignett together in our midfield back then ?

Redders was our driving force , inspiration and the best captain I've ever seen at Oakwell .

Complete legend , our Robson , our Keane , our Kompany .

He loved the club , all he wanted was paying what he rightly should have received .

Tinkler was on more money , feck me .

Feck me that was some effort by Redders in the 97/98 Premiership season. Surely that amount of goals is a record for a midfielder in a relegation team. Surely.

It's funny tha mentions Redders and Higgy laikin together. I can't imagine it working to be fair. Redders had the license to get forrard cos thy ed Sheridan and Jovo sweeping up behind him just as Higgy ed Van de Laan and Tinkler doing the same. They'd have clashed imo but would've been brilliant in a fantasy football league team!!

[animallittle3]

Feck me that was some effort by Redders in the 97/98 Premiership season. Surely that amount of goals is a record for a midfielder in a relegation team. Surely.

It's funny tha mentions Redders and Higgy laikin together. I can't imagine it working to be fair. Redders had the license to get forrard cos thy ed Sheridan and Jovo sweeping up behind him just as Higgy ed Van de Laan and Tinkler doing the same. They'd have clashed imo but would've been brilliant in a fantasy football league team!!

They'd have worked it out Pass in my opinion .

One game summed up Redders for me and that was the Portsmouth away game days before we finally clinched promotion to the PL .

We went in at halftime down there 3-0 down and we were absolutely awful that night first half .

Redders wasn't having it , he single handily did what a captain should do and got us right back in the game , he drove us on , took responsibility and scored twice to make it 2-3 with loads of time left .

He was fecking immense .

If Andy Liddell had taken a simple chance to make it 3-3 it wouldn't have been in vain that night .

We lost 4-2 in the end that night and I thought we'd blown it to be honest but thankfully Jack Lester scored for Grimsby the following night at Wolves leaving us to secure promotion on the Saturday against Bradford .

When Redders scored our first ever PL goal on the opening day against West Ham it was one of the great moments .

I can still see him right now in front of the Ponty End giving it large .

Absolute fecking legend and one of us .

Probably the likes we'll never see again .