Carers Of Dundee ad on TV

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I can't disagree more.

You said no 20 year old had hope of a job......I'll let you off with gross exaggeration.

This nostalgic ****e about AHH **** in it together in the early mid seventies grinds my gears a bit.

Thatcher raised expectation those who cud grabbed opportunity, those that couldn't struggled, those that cudnt be arsed.....meh.

I'll say again I saw little poverty despair or lack of hope thru my ****s and 20s, mixed with manual workers, professional and those going thru uni to better themselves

I honestly think they will be the best times I'll ever live thru

I'm allowed to exaggerate a bit.

Of course there were jobs, I had a few, but the ones I got were all dead end crappy ones - they even tried to get me back on YOP or whatever it was called at the time. Manufacturing was gubbed and I looked at other options, didn't work out for me but did for others. By the way the ones it worked out better for at the time never got the opportunities later on that I did.

I remember living in a two bedroom tenement in West March with my Mum, Dad, sister and three brothers - my sister had the small back bedroom to herself, mum and dad slept on a sofa bed in the living room and four of us were in the front bedroom in two double beds; most families in our street were in the same or a very similar boat. Most parents worked and they watched each others' kids to help each other out - all in it together type thing. That's not nostalgia, it's cold hard facts of life in the sixties / early seventies.

It was the late 1980s / early 1990s before I managed to get myself sorted after losing my apprenticeship in 1981, but I got there and agree the 1990s / 2000s were decent times. But let's not write off the hard times before then when ordinary working people did often find it hard but got through.

Edit to add - did you not find it strange that it took Thatcher being overthrown in 1990 for times to get a bit better?

[eric_sinclair]

Scotland was due a revaluation that's why it was started year before but Tommy Sheridan and co just bull****ted.

If I was wanna swing I'd take advice AFF o Tommy, local govt funding.....nah.😆

Yeah but the poll tax was a disaster,councils lost millions,the electrol roll went down by millions all over the country.
It is recognised by most as a shambles and rightly so.

[islaydarkblue]

Yeah but the poll tax was a disaster,councils lost millions,the electrol roll went down by millions all over the country.
It is recognised by most as a shambles and rightly so.

These were the same people who suddenly came out of the woodwork and registered to vote in the 2014 Scottish independence referendum.
They should have been charged for non payment of their community charge but Salmond write off the outstanding Community Charge debt on the local councils books because Salmond was hoping that these people would vote in favour of Scotland becoming an independent country.
Now the Scottish Government despite its lavish funding from Westminster under the rules of the Barnett Formula is pleading poverty with as large shortfall in funding of from memory £3.5 billion.

[eric_sinclair]

I can't disagree more.

You said no 20 year old had hope of a job......I'll let you off with gross exaggeration.

This nostalgic ****e about AHH **** in it together in the early mid seventies grinds my gears a bit.

Thatcher raised expectation those who cud grabbed opportunity, those that couldn't struggled, those that cudnt be arsed.....meh.

I'll say again I saw little poverty despair or lack of hope thru my ****s and 20s, mixed with manual workers, professional and those going thru uni to better themselves

I honestly think they will be the best times I'll ever live thru

Yer a betting man.
I'd wager the majority if not all of your acquaintances did not have a similar support for Maggie then,and yes most were working etc.Many apprenteships were lost due to cuts by councils late 80,s.

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Anyway, how do I claim carer's allowance?

[frankiekopel]

Since 2000 to 2019 ,average wages have increased by around 25%,share dividends have increased by 132% in the same period ,employers not sharing the wealth is the problem these days

[BCram]

Since 2000 to 2019 ,average wages have increased by around 25%,share dividends have increased by 132% in the same period ,employers not sharing the wealth is the problem these days

I think you have misinterpreted your own figures. dividends have increased by 5 times the rate that wages have increased. I thnik that implies that employers have been sharing the wealth that their companies have generated with their shareholders.

I don't know the answer but I think total wages paid will be a much bigger figure than total dividends paid. Would like to confirm that thought but can't find any reliable info.

[frankiekopel]

Bcram ,I have no doubt the wage bill is higher than total profits ,some employees need in work benefits to survive ,paid by us the tax payer ,while the companies post huge profits ,the richest will profit the most ,when companies share the wealth through dividends

[Returnofrros]

Yeah but the poll tax was a disaster,councils lost millions,the electrol roll went down by millions all over the country.
It is recognised by most as a shambles and rightly so.

I'd have it back in a minute.

Fairest system.....if they had 100% rebate.

[frankiekopel]

I'd have it back in a minute.

Fairest system.....if they had 100% rebate.

a mixture of per person and property value would be the fairest imo