Bamford

[alfinyalcabo]

About as much as the whole of the Bumley squad, so kind of what you warrant. Enjoy the next season where you belong (or maybe Div 1, you never know).

Hope you are okay WTF,or are you having a bad time or hitting the bottle late on.. 🤔

Anyway if you wish to talk there are plenty of listeners on here who can perhaps help you if you require it. Take care mate. UTC.

[WTF11]

Hope you are okay WTF,or are you having a bad time or hitting the bottle late on.. ��

Anyway if you wish to talk there are plenty of listeners on here who can perhaps help you if you require it. Take care mate. UTC.

"Ok"? depends on your definition of that I suppose. One foot in front of the other is the best I expect.

As for "hitting the bottle", I enjoy a good red wine with a nice meal, I'm not keen on spirits apart from Havana Club Especial (or 7-years), on the rocks.

None of that has anything to do with my "contribution" to this thread (or any others recently). Your comment about diving was a cheap shot, although coming from someone who supports an opposing team (or at least they were), I guess it's understandable. Its the drastically different comments from others about Klich and Bamford, eulogising about the former as if he was responsible for us getting promotion (when he most certainly wasn't) and deploring the fitness of the latter, who WAS responsible for scoring the goals that got us promoted and kept us in the PL for that crucial first season, that prompted post #7

Bielsa DID NOT get Leeds promoted, the players did, and pre-eminent amongst them was Bamford. He ran his heart out for the team, was unselfish about acting as provider as well as scorer.

Bielsa DID NOT keep us in the PL in that first crucial season, the players did, and pre-eminent amongst them was Bamford and as in the previous season, he acted as both scorer and provider (remember the goal Harrison scored against Leicester after running alongside Bamford almost the entire length of the pitch WITH THE GAME ALREADY WON, so keen was the desire?)

Throughout those two crucial seasons, what did the club do to provide their one and only true striker with some kind of "respite"? Nothing zip, nada, the square root of f00k all. They patched him up, gave him steroid injections, got him fit-ish, and being the kind of player he is, he soldiered on, often playing with clear injury behaviours. Every other position on the pitch had "alternatives" ,particularly when we had a utility player like Dallas who could be entrusted to do well wherever he played. Not the striker role.

Some on here have said that he has been injured for the last two years, wrong. He is worn out. Working as Bielsa expected for two seasons straight, playing (and usually starting) in 85 matches and scoring 33 goals in the doing has ruined him, and he probably knew it would even as he turned out semi-fit (he's a very intelligent, astute player). His condition now is a direct result of managerial and executive incompetence.

As for Klich, I wish him well, he also has suffered, hasn't been fit enough to appear regularly for LUFC and if going to the MLS gives him a good final pay day, good on him.

[BelfastAndy]

I saw him on TV playing John Stonehouse

[Ozwhites]

If Bamford was to exit now, I certainly would also give him the same high praise for his tremendous contribution to getting us to the PL. Not sure that is even in question to anyone on here as you seem to intimate. 🤔 It is what he is able to contribute now that is being questioned...and not sure anyone can argue against that either. Both have gone past their best for us now...simple.

[Rev72]

I saw him on TV playing John Stonehouse

[WTF11]

If Bamford was to exit now, I certainly would also give him the same high praise for his tremendous contribution to getting us to the PL. Not sure that is even in question to anyone on here as you seem to intimate. �� It is what he is able to contribute now that is being questioned...and not sure anyone can argue against that either. Both have gone past their best for us now...simple.

Post #5 and Post #10 make clear reference to his injury history, none of which I'm contesting by the way. It's the scant regard anybody seems to give to his contribution, and an apparent willingness to forgive the club for not providing the same level of support they have given to just about every other player (including Kilch) when injury strikes that sticks. There is no way that a player of his calibre, properly managed and whose physical AND mental well-being has been adequately protected, should be ending their career as he appears to be at present (look at Ings, 31 and still baning them in and playing just the kind of strikers game we could do with).

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Post #5 and Post #10 make clear reference to his injury history, none of which I'm contesting by the way. It's the scant regard anybody seems to give to his contribution, and an apparent willingness to forgive the club for not providing the same level of support they have given to just about every other player (including Kilch) when injury strikes that sticks. There is no way that a player of his calibre, properly managed and whose physical AND mental well-being has been adequately protected, should be ending their career as he appears to be at present (look at Ings, 31 and still baning them in and playing just the kind of strikers game we could do with).

He improved immeasurably under Bielsa who had the upmost faith in him.

His injury record is shocking and when he first played for us his running and pressing was often half arsed. He also misses lots of big chances.

Fair play to him he improved every season and when on form was fantastic for us. It’s just with his injuries he then gets out of form and then can’t finish as we would like.

With our squad and where we are at in the league there is pressure to finish chances and he hasn’t be able to.

Sad for him but his body just seems too frail for the demands of the football in the premier league and we need someone who can be regularly fit for reliable for us.

When we needed him last season he was injured and he has played less than a handful of games this. Season 1 he was out for over half the season and he picked up some injuries in seasons 2 and 3. Last year he was out for half of it.

It’s a shame for him and it’s a shame for us but unless he is fully fit he doesn’t score and whilst he brings a lot more to the team we need goals.

It doesn’t mean we aren’t grateful for what he has done in seasons gone by 2 and 3 being the big ones.

[WTF11]

He improved immeasurably under Bielsa who had the upmost faith in him.

His injury record is shocking and when he first played for us his running and pressing was often half arsed. He also misses lots of big chances.

Fair play to him he improved every season and when on form was fantastic for us. It’s just with his injuries he then gets out of form and then can’t finish as we would like.

With our squad and where we are at in the league there is pressure to finish chances and he hasn’t be able to.

Sad for him but his body just seems too frail for the demands of the football in the premier league and we need someone who can be regularly fit for reliable for us.

When we needed him last season he was injured and he has played less than a handful of games this. Season 1 he was out for over half the season and he picked up some injuries in seasons 2 and 3. Last year he was out for half of it.

It’s a shame for him and it’s a shame for us but unless he is fully fit he doesn’t score and whilst he brings a lot more to the team we need goals.

It doesn’t mean we aren’t grateful for what he has done in seasons gone by 2 and 3 being the big ones.

Yes, of course "we're all grateful", hence the wonderfully gracious comment regarding Bamford (post #19) in the Cardiff cup match thread, delightful. A true reflection of the high regard Bamford is held in, reflecting his contribution to the clubs promotion to and survival in the PL. Yeah right.

[hopelesslyoptimistic]

Yes, of course "we're all grateful", hence the wonderfully gracious comment regarding Bamford (post #19) in the Cardiff cup match thread, delightful. A true reflection of the high regard Bamford is held in, reflecting his contribution to the clubs promotion to and survival in the PL. Yeah right.

If only life were as binary as you seen to wish.

Is Bamford a good player- yes!
Is he likely to be fit this season - god knows!
Has he improved whilst with us - yes, massively improved which is why so many have made nice comments.
Can he be frustrating - massively, when it’s not his day he can squander chance after chance or even get in the way and block shots on the line. Often he is like that when he lacks confidence. He looks shorn of confidence in his few appearances this season.
Do I think we should be looking for someone more reliable - absolutely.

He will go down as a key part of the championship winning squad and for the first season back. I also think he is fine example of how if you work hard at your game you can improve.

Neither his body now his confidence suggest he can get back to season 3 levels anytime soon though much as we would like him to.

[norfolk white]

Danny ings name was mentioned in the above statements, I believe he is up for sale, not on loan though, worth a take surely, can still deliver and runs his guts out.