Micheal gove

[Returnofrros]

Read an interesting report that Sweden has serious social problems because of the large number of migrants they accepted. They were surprised that they did not behave like good socialists and immediately adopt their Swedish values. Gun crime and gangs now blight parts of Sweden in ways that they never expected. Their social services could not cope and surprise surprise gangs formed.

That's been going on for years, Sweden now has a lot of no go slums

I'm no fan of Sweden's "socialist" Wats of the past, big fan of how they handled the scamdemic

[islaydarkblue]

" the virus caused inflation"

Julia Hartley brewer had his balls skewered......." No pandemic policy caused inflation"

3 times he insisted it was the virus.......the lie that never dies.

Prices increased in the supermarkets thanks to people stripping the shelves bare as soon as the lockdown was announced.
The price of flour was one ingredient which shot up in price but in my experience of previously being a member of Kantar world shopping panel the price of a lot of every day shopping products increased in price.
Pasta was another food product that greatly increased in price as demand greatly outstripped supply resulting in a large increase in price.

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Prices increased in the supermarkets thanks to people stripping the shelves bare as soon as the lockdown was announced.
The price of flour was one ingredient which shot up in price but in my experience of previously being a member of Kantar world shopping panel the price of a lot of every day shopping products increased in price.
Pasta was another food product that greatly increased in price as demand greatly outstripped supply resulting in a large increase in price.

All caused of course by the ill considered 'pandemic policy' and not by any virus.

Was there ever actually a policy or plan? Or was it just stop people coming into contact with each other, blame every death we can get away with on Covid, tell people they WILL die if they get it and hope nobody notices we've made a Jim Delahunt of it?

[islaydarkblue]

All caused of course by the ill considered 'pandemic policy' and not by any virus.

Was there ever actually a policy or plan? Or was it just stop people coming into contact with each other, blame every death we can get away with on Covid, tell people they WILL die if they get it and hope nobody notices we've made a Jim Delahunt of it?

I doubt if there was ever a policy of plan to deal with Covid.
The politicians in the U.K. decided to listen to the views of scientists who also did not know what they were doing.

[Returnofrros]

I doubt if there was ever a policy of plan to deal with Covid.
The politicians in the U.K. decided to listen to the views of scientists who also did not know what they were doing.

There was a pandemic plan in place since 2004, Sweden adopted it, the UK and the devolved bits of it abandoned it.

[islaydarkblue]

There was a pandemic plan in place since 2004, Sweden adopted it, the UK and the devolved bits of it abandoned it.

That is because we have a bunch of thick politicians throughout the U.K. who cannot think for themselves and have to be told what to do by scientists who in my opinion are equally clueless.

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That is because we have a bunch of thick politicians throughout the U.K. who cannot think for themselves and have to be told what to do by scientists who in my opinion are equally clueless.

The term Mad Scientist may well have been coined with the scamdemic in mind

[BCram]

That is because we have a bunch of thick politicians throughout the U.K. who cannot think for themselves and have to be told what to do by scientists who in my opinion are equally clueless.

If we have a bunch of thick politicians I think it is our fault! Look at the state of the military. Every military leader and the entire Ministry of Defence has laid down and rolled over to "facilitate" succeeding reductions in military spending. They are all as guilty as the politicians who only ask " how can we sell these cuts to the electorate? Health service exactly the same. All the union leaders, medical leaders and healthboard members have completely failed in their remits. They have colluded with the politicians to deliver the farce that we have just now. I think we have a bunch of jobsworths in charge of us and they need to change their approach and do the jobs they are supposed to be doing like running the rail service, and tell the politicians what needs to be done.

Democracy is a very simple way of making decisions, it isn't a political philosophy or a set of ethical values. It isn't automatically the right thing to do just because the majority favour a course of action.

[islaydarkblue]

If we have a bunch of thick politicians I think it is our fault! Look at the state of the military. Every military leader and the entire Ministry of Defence has laid down and rolled over to "facilitate" succeeding reductions in military spending. They are all as guilty as the politicians who only ask " how can we sell these cuts to the electorate? Health service exactly the same. All the union leaders, medical leaders and healthboard members have completely failed in their remits. They have colluded with the politicians to deliver the farce that we have just now. I think we have a bunch of jobsworths in charge of us and they need to change their approach and do the jobs they are supposed to be doing like running the rail service, and tell the politicians what needs to be done.

Democracy is a very simple way of making decisions, it isn't a political philosophy or a set of ethical values. It isn't automatically the right thing to do just because the majority favour a course of action.

Too many reductions in Government spending have been caused by consultants carrying out ‘desk top’ exercises which do not work in everyday life.
This was patently obvious with the shortage of PPE at the start of the Covid-19 pandemic thanks to desk top exercises having taken place which were no use.
There is no point in operating a ‘just in time’ policy if large quantities are required immediately.
In my opinion we currently have a bunch of dead beat politicians from local authority level upwards who are only interested in lining their own pockets at taxpayers expense.
In Argyll and Bute we have dead beat politicians from Community Council level upwards but in Dundee you are spared having useless Community Councils which are ‘talking shops’ with nothing getting done.
Every January local authority Councillors tell us that their local authority is hard up and will have to make major cutbacks or greatly increase the council tax.
As usual this is scaremongering by the local authority Councillors who suddenly ‘manage’ to find plenty of money squirrelled away in the council coffers due to a previous lack of spending.

[BCram]

Think the problem has always been there. The way to control local government spending was always an issue. SNP solved it by freezing council tax levels. It just took local power to make decisions away from the local councillors. Now that that control has gone we should be seeing major rows between local authorities and Holyrood but because so much of the country votes SNP, Westminster rather than Holyrood gets the blame.

Would like to see much better reporting of the figures. Simple budget deficits need to be explained. For example I think the total spend in Dundee City is £350m. The budget hole is I think £18m which is just about 5%. If current plans were based on inflation about 2% then the current inflation rate of roughly 10% is bound to be causing problems. I don't understand why local ounces leadership ignores their electorate and fails to communicate effectively with their voters. Bit like DFC?