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Thread: Making Mistakes vs Tactical Instruction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smigpie View Post
    When Stockport attacked us they did so in numbers and at pace overwhelming us and when we attacked them it took forever allowing them to canter back with 11 men behind the ball, not rocket science. All the top teams did the same hence they are top teams whilst we continue to adapt our possession football but sadly across the pitch, might be controversial but the facts don’t lie.
    Our style produces a lot of goals when it's played correctly which it isn't since Maynard tried to "tweak" the backline. We used to go forward quickly, precisely and with aggression. Now we spend too much time ***** footing around and getting caught out! Gone are the "action" LW installed into them.

    Baldwin has slipped so many times this season leading to goals, maybe a better choice of boot for the conditions might help Iwouldn't renew his or Brindley's contracts.

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    Lots of sensible points being made.

    Given the fact that we are very unlikely to find a CB who will be able consistently give SM what he desires in that role, we have two options;

    We persist and Maynard accepts mistakes will happen, taking the majority of the responsibility himself because that’s what he is asking that individual to do.

    That role, and as a by product the whole back three, adapts to be more suitable to a L2 side and abilities of those available.

    Given that it’s highly unlikely we’ll find a CB capable of doing it all in that role, Maynard must adapt to survive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1955pie View Post
    The comments about footwear seems obvious.
    However, he never seems properly balanced in those tight situations. He is a tall player and when he tries to turn his feet seem too close together and he falls/slips.
    I’m sure his choice of footwear must have been addressed surely.
    Stall was critical of Baldwin's footwear choices, and of Baldwin. He's on his home ground and should know what suits best for balance, or maybe he's just built wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    Stall was critical of Baldwin's footwear choices, and of Baldwin. He's on his home ground and should know what suits best for balance, or maybe he's just built wrong.
    He is like Bambi on ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftPeg_Pie View Post
    Lots of sensible points being made.

    Given the fact that we are very unlikely to find a CB who will be able consistently give SM what he desires in that role, we have two options;

    We persist and Maynard accepts mistakes will happen, taking the majority of the responsibility himself because that’s what he is asking that individual to do.

    That role, and as a by product the whole back three, adapts to be more suitable to a L2 side and abilities of those available.

    Given that it’s highly unlikely we’ll find a CB capable of doing it all in that role, Maynard must adapt to survive.
    The problem is, Maynard was recruited primarily because of the way he likes to play. If he were the type of manager who likes to get it forward early and not "dominate possession", he wouldn't have been on Radar's radar. If he's sacked, he'll be replaced by a clone.

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    Many times he will play a ball without considering the consequences of it or even looking up, which puts the recipient in trouble too. Last night, just before his f up he played an abysmal ball back to LAH that was about 10 yards wide of where he was because he's doesn't bother to look up first. No spatial awareness. It's not scapegoating when his decision making both in and out of possession must have cost 20 goals this season, probably as a conservative estimate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little15 View Post
    Many times he will play a ball without considering the consequences of it or even looking up, which puts the recipient in trouble too. Last night, just before his f up he played an abysmal ball back to LAH that was about 10 yards wide of where he was because he's doesn't bother to look up first. No spatial awareness. It's not scapegoating when his decision making both in and out of possession must have cost 20 goals this season, probably as a conservative estimate.
    I had a similar conversation with my old man last night. The thing is with the way Notts play, it’s so driven into patterns that a decent percentage of the time, Baldwin doesn’t need to look because he knows where his teammates should be when he has the ball in various scenarios. Especially the ball back to his GK. Often Baldwin doesn’t look and generally makes the pass; it’s so drilled into him where the GK should be and into the GK where they should go. I understand that sometimes you’ve got to look, but that’s how football is coached nowadays.

    That example lends itself perfectly to the whole issue. Is Baldwin making those mistakes because he’s not good enough or is he being asked to do too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeftPeg_Pie View Post
    I had a similar conversation with my old man last night. The thing is with the way Notts play, it’s so driven into patterns that a decent percentage of the time, Baldwin doesn’t need to look because he knows where his teammates should be when he has the ball in various scenarios. Especially the ball back to his GK. Often Baldwin doesn’t look and generally makes the pass; it’s so drilled into him where the GK should be and into the GK where they should go. I understand that sometimes you’ve got to look, but that’s how football is coached nowadays.

    That example lends itself perfectly to the whole issue. Is Baldwin making those mistakes because he’s not good enough or is he being asked to do too much.
    He is not good enough to do what he is asked. So not good enough for the way we want to play.
    OK, so some may say lets change the way we play to suit Baldwin. No, the answer is not to renew his contract at the end of the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1955pie View Post
    He is not good enough to do what he is asked. So not good enough for the way we want to play.
    OK, so some may say lets change the way we play to suit Baldwin. No, the answer is not to renew his contract at the end of the season.
    But where do we get ball playing centre halves who also defend well? If they’re around they’re not playing in league 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigFatPie View Post
    But where do we get ball playing centre halves who also defend well? If they’re around they’re not playing in league 2.
    You may need to change the way you play mid-season to suit what you have.
    But you don’t lock yourself in by signing or re-signing players who are not good enough to do what you want. Probably for 2 years as well.

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