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  1. #11
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    I seem to find it hard to understand how any genuine supporter would have enjoyed this humiliating display. IMO a rather inappropriate comment.

    What I find frustrating is that so few posters are refusing to accept that these dreadul displays are entirely down to our management team. It is obvious they are both totally out of their depth. Feek it is unfair to blame the players.

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    Horrendous display. It will be a long hard season fighting to avoid the drop. The management really needs to take a hard look at themselves and consider whether, taking into account last season's slump, they can improve this team - too many youngsters with little league experience. The Chairman and the board need to take a full season focus and consider quickly whether a management change is required - and not someone off the the academy cab rank. The club needs an external perspective and not more of the same. Would Ryan Lowe be a good replacement? Let's face it, on this showing even Frank Lampard might do a bit better!

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    At last a supporter/poster who speaks sense. Who has accurately described our problems and tunnel vision approach to the future of our club.

    At the same time the silence from the majority of this forums posters is deafening. Incredibly do we have to question if they really care.

    We have another poster who constantly suggests different formations and yesterday so unfairly criticised some of our players. For months not once has he suggested the obvious, our management basically do not understand the modern game and lack any positive tactics.

    I do believe that Charles Grant is an honest man who wants the best for our club. However unless he take action to remedy this ongoing problem he is in danger of losing credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazan View Post
    Have to say today was awful ( so no accusations of rosy specs). It was over as a contest after 11 minutes.
    The first was a fluke but probably set the tone. It also was the start of a horror show for Connolly whose poor control led to two of the early goals. After the first 2 games, it was clear we had weaknesses in the air in our own box. We have now conceded 5 goals from 8 from set plays. The very worrying thing is that MickeyD has also started poorly and so we need the other CHs to be a lot more solid than they have been in these games.
    The other weird thing today was having 3 CMs but still being overrun and seemingly leaving loads of space for the opposition to stroke the ball around in.
    It was right to give Conway MOTM because he got stuck in. He should have started.
    I have to say that LB got his line-up and formation wrong from the beginning. He needs to squeeze the team up the pitch from the start. Having a single player up front plays against that idea. Hemmings also doesn't have legs. Why does Cooney still get picked ahead of anyone else? He's enthusiastic and runs but his lack of skill is obvious.
    Some people around me were moaning about the GK but I couldn't see what he could do about such a leaky defence.
    So, we should be playing a 3. Billington and Conway should start games as WBs. I would persevere with 3 in the middle and two up front. 1 of the latter should be Lankester who was willing and able to take on defenders but I'm at a loss about the other. I do think it shouldn't be Hemmings as I don't think the 'targetman' approach does us any favours.
    I'm sure some will enjoy this humiliation but it was crap and almost a meaningless 75 minutes.
    It certainly was not down to the goalkeeper he did nothing wrong but our defence was awful, I have seen some poor defending for goals, we all have, but they they are normally isolated incidents this was another level. I don't think I have ever seen a games when it's all over after 12 mins, also I think goal scoring is going to be a big problem this season I certainly don't think Hemmings is the answer to the problem and that does concern me. I was concerned after the Barrow game as I couldn't see where the goals were going to come from and I think I was justified by that concern. I wonder if I will get criticised for using the word concern after this game, the two individuals concerned know who they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobstopper View Post
    It certainly was not down to the goalkeeper he did nothing wrong but our defence was awful, I have seen some poor defending for goals, we all have, but they they are normally isolated incidents this was another level. I don't think I have ever seen a games when it's all over after 12 mins, also I think goal scoring is going to be a big problem this season I certainly don't think Hemmings is the answer to the problem and that does concern me. I was concerned after the Barrow game as I couldn't see where the goals were going to come from and I think I was justified by that concern. I wonder if I will get criticised for using the word concern after this game, the two individuals concerned know who they are.
    If at any time you witness a game where you are not pleased with the performance as a supporter it is only natural that you should be concerned. It would be strange if you felt otherwise.

    Hope you do not mind if I ask you 2 simple questions

    At any time in the past months when you have witnessed poor displays similar to the Barrow game have you ever considered it was down to poor management?

    Also could you tell me who these two individuals are? Sounds like they are not true genuine supporters.

    Looking forward to your reply, take care and may your God go with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukcour View Post
    At last a supporter/poster who speaks sense. Who has accurately described our problems and tunnel vision approach to the future of our club.

    At the same time the silence from the majority of this forums posters is deafening. Incredibly do we have to question if they really care.

    We have another poster who constantly suggests different formations and yesterday so unfairly criticised some of our players. For months not once has he suggested the obvious, our management basically do not understand the modern game and lack any positive tactics.

    I do believe that Charles Grant is an honest man who wants the best for our club. However unless he take action to remedy this ongoing problem he is in danger of losing credibility.
    The Silence from the majority etc…
    Yes, I really do care, having supported the Alex since 1974.
    Similar to MSB, I have decided to take a break from posting on this forum. I find it too vindictive, passively aggressive and repetitive. If the caps fit…

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyboldon View Post
    The Silence from the majority etc…
    Yes, I really do care, having supported the Alex since 1974.
    Similar to MSB, I have decided to take a break from posting on this forum. I find it too vindictive, passively aggressive and repetitive. If the caps fit…
    But then those who pretend to care about the club and who really just get off on social-media type ****-stirring have won. Please don't allow yourself to be bullied off these boards. Take heart from the solidarity expressed by anti-racist counter demonstrations around the country. Don't let the bully boys win! Ignore the faux hurt that will be expressed on here in response. They're really not worth it! Up the Alex!

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    As with the general plague on society that is the enormity of anonymous postings on social media, it is important not to be bullied off these boards. I agree with Gazan's comments. I have no problem with individuals disagreeing with what I post. My views are mine and, as at work, I am always happy to hear contrary views as I am definitely never always right. What I dislike are those who post an objection to a point but do not offer an alternative or rationale why they object to my post. I am not going to start a row on this board as I express my views and I hope they provoke or continue a debate on specific issues. I do care about Crewe Alex. I have supported them all of my life and I will not be changing now. I just feel at present that the club needs to both look inwards and outwards to reset itself for football now and not 20 or more years ago when the Academy business model was seen as the means for the club to thrive. It did work for a number of years, but the cracks are definitely starting to appear and changes need to be made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukcour View Post
    If at any time you witness a game where you are not pleased with the performance as a supporter it is only natural that you should be concerned. It would be strange if you felt otherwise.

    Hope you do not mind if I ask you 2 simple questions

    At any time in the past months when you have witnessed poor displays similar to the Barrow game have you ever considered it was down to poor management?

    Also could you tell me who these two individuals are? Sounds like they are not true genuine supporters.

    Looking forward to your reply, take care and may your God go with you.
    I suppose we have been lucky with the displays from last season, we unfortunately fell at the last hurdle so other than that last season was big positive so no need to be concerned. Having witnessed Barrow and Chesterfield I can be critical of recruitment. Its difficult to be critical of Bogle as I have not seen him play but we need a player who can head the ball and hold onto the ball when it is played up to him and I'm not sure Hemmings fits that role. Against Chesterfield he was up against 2 big central defenders who won everything in the air and he wont face that every week, so where are the goals going to come from. Last year they came from all over the pitch and in particular Nevitt. Personally at this moment in time I think CBR would have been a better option so maybe LB should have done more to keep him. I think there is now a lot of expectation on Bogle as we don't seem to have an alternative goal source, not sure when he will play, so yes I can be critical of LB but I still believe he is the right man for the job. The two individuals are true supporters and I don't need to expand on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furberstreet View Post
    As with the general plague on society that is the enormity of anonymous postings on social media, it is important not to be bullied off these boards. I agree with Gazan's comments. I have no problem with individuals disagreeing with what I post. My views are mine and, as at work, I am always happy to hear contrary views as I am definitely never always right. What I dislike are those who post an objection to a point but do not offer an alternative or rationale why they object to my post. I am not going to start a row on this board as I express my views and I hope they provoke or continue a debate on specific issues. I do care about Crewe Alex. I have supported them all of my life and I will not be changing now. I just feel at present that the club needs to both look inwards and outwards to reset itself for football now and not 20 or more years ago when the Academy business model was seen as the means for the club to thrive. It did work for a number of years, but the cracks are definitely starting to appear and changes need to be made.
    Furberstreet there is no bullying on this site. If you genuinely believe this show me the evidence. Oh one post slipped my memory where Jimmy B. accused me of abusing Gazan. I asked for an apology but never received a response. I personally did not view that accusation as bullying. Rather I believe that possibly Jimmy misunderstood one of my posts.

    Further do you not recognise an extremely crude attempt of what clearly was a setup between Gazan and Jimmy. Give it a little thought. Gazans response to Jimmy B`s post is clearly a classical example of extreme left wing tactics. Don`t worry about telling the truth spread lies and extreme hints and some of it will stick.

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