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Thread: Tuchel - England Manager

  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sclox View Post
    Big "IF". A lot can stop it from happening and it is probably the most scrutinised job in the game, patience is short for success. I guarantee it will end with no world cup or Euros and he will be the next Turnip/Parsnip. Tuchel Blaukraut or something. The margins are so small in international football, creme de la creme.

    I could be wrong but it will probably end with failure and some kind of personal attack on TT.
    I agree, but the chances of winning with a good squad are better than with a poor one.

    But I totally agree that there is a lot that go wrong, and no one is guaranteed a trophy regardless of the squad… just think it helps improve the odd’s of it.

    Completely impossible - Faroe Islands
    Much better chance than the Faroe Islands - England

    😉

  2. #12
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    On Tuchel.

    He's a serial winner, does great work with young athletic squads. Knows the English game and players. Tino and Hall are both known to him so bodes well for the two of them.

    I'm sure he'll get a tune out of England and we'll have more chance tactically in the latter stages of competition whilst also putting smaller nations to bed in the build up and group stages.

    I don't really give a damn about England. I am purely club over country.

    Thomas being German isn't a consideration for me at all. The guy will do his job and England will be better with him as manager!

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    All these comments about will he sing the National Anthem… he’s not English, I wouldn’t expect him to!! A St. George’s Cross bed spread will be enough 😆

    Anyways, I hope he does well… I fell out of love with English football a long time ago! Just never had an affinity with the national side, but if Tuchel can talk about ‘our 3 Lions, and a second star on the shirt’… then maybe there’s hope for me yet!!!

    I’m all for Tuchel, he’s not a high intensity, immediate press manager like Klopp, which in my opinion is pointless at an international tournament when the players are tired after a long season.

    Nor is he a master tactical genius like Pep, who let’s face it, couldn’t get his crazy ideas across to the players in a short international camp.

    He’s a pragmatist and will build from the back forward, yet has enough about him to take the fear of losing out of the players that has hampered the last 3 tournaments!

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    Reading a bit about TT and the general consensus is he is a bit of a cnt but may be a good fit for the England job. This is a reasonable summation from another poster about him from somewhere else. Heres why he could do well with England. I've broken it down.

    "Because he's an unlikeable arrogant wannabe Guardiola that starts crying and throwing anyone under the bus as soon as things start going sideways. He's never at fault, he can do no wrong and it's always either the pitch, the ref, a certain player or god knows what"

    He can drop and pick who he wants for England.

    "The guy is living off a CL win in which I will give him a tiny bit of merit, he did set up the squad good to counter city. However he was hardcarried by the fact that DeBruyne was out in the first half and all of Citys plans went out the window at that point."

    Seems to have the luck factor and at least a little bit more flexiblity and tactically astuteness than dangerteeth had.

    "He does not make squads better, he absolutely does not know how to manage what he has. 1st thing he does when he takes over as coach is ask for new players and with that tells the players he already has that they are not good enough to play under him. I wonder how he lost both locker rooms at Chelsea and Bayern?"

    Again has total freedom to pick and drop players at will and does not need to improve players for England. He loses the locker room then all he has to do is drop the bad apples and pick others free of charge.

    "In 10 years Tommy T will be rated exactly as he should be: a mediocre trainer that should only be hired if a club has enough money to buy an entirely new squad for him. Only to then win maybe 1 or 2 trophies before he goes on to look for another victim"

    Money not a factor for England and he only has to win 1 or 2 trophies. Maybe this will work.

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    People bitching we did not go for a English manager. I don't care, you need to go out and get the best available manager.

  6. #16
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    England have gone from having a serial loser with zero success or real experience at the top level to a serial winner who has managed the biggest Egos in the game and won the biggest club cup competition in the game.

    He is precisely the type of manager England should hire. I don't give a damn about England. I'm 100% club over country due to the decades of garbage football played and nonsense favouritism.

    I'll be delighted to see Tommy T get knighted for leading England to silverware. He'd definitely deserve it if England win the Euros or World cup.

    It seems finally that the FA have decided to make a decision based on results. BRAVO!

  7. #17
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    Why didn't it work out for him at Bayern? I think he's probably very hard to love.

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by HughieG View Post
    Why didn't it work out for him at Bayern? I think he's probably very hard to love.
    Has a tendency to fall out with players and owners from everything I've read.

    In that respect, international management might suit him as he can just pick different ones - as (I think) Rag alluded to.

  9. #19
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    If Tuchel can get the best out of the talent available and get us back to watching enjoyable international football with the potential of a trophy at the end of that, then who cares what nationality?

    All I will add to that is, why would the FA not want to choose an English manager, and what happens when Tuchel decides he wants to do it his way and does not toe the general (what appears to be) FA line?

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