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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy King of the West View Post
    I've posted this many times over the years but for some reason it doesn't seem to resonate with people on here, so I'll post again:

    TS would sell RUFC this afternoon. But he will not sell RU Estates Ltd.

    At virtually every fans forum I submit a question asking why RUFC and RU Estates were separated and, if the reason was for keeping the NYS debt off RUFCs accounts, would that situation change once the liability becomes a significant asset?

    The question is never selected.
    GKOTW, You always post a sensible point pal. Would you consider posting more often or, just continue to look in ad hoc?

    By the way, you'll find that the challenging questions to TS and the board NEVER get chosen, we can't be having Tony being challenged like that now can we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy King of the West View Post
    I've posted this many times over the years but for some reason it doesn't seem to resonate with people on here, so I'll post again:

    TS would sell RUFC this afternoon. But he will not sell RU Estates Ltd.

    At virtually every fans forum I submit a question asking why RUFC and RU Estates were separated and, if the reason was for keeping the NYS debt off RUFCs accounts, would that situation change once the liability becomes a significant asset?

    The question is never selected.
    It is an excellent question, the worry for me of TS moving on is what really happens to the club. There are so many horror stories of dodgy deals and people in football we know because we have had them here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy King of the West View Post
    I've posted this many times over the years but for some reason it doesn't seem to resonate with people on here, so I'll post again:

    TS would sell RUFC this afternoon. But he will not sell RU Estates Ltd.

    At virtually every fans forum I submit a question asking why RUFC and RU Estates were separated and, if the reason was for keeping the NYS debt off RUFCs accounts, would that situation change once the liability becomes a significant asset?

    The question is never selected.
    Allegedly, he charges the club £1m a year in rent while were in the Championship, and reduced rent in L1. So, IF, the £1M goes into his pension pot and some to pay the staduim off. What happens when he pays the stadium off? We're in into our 12th year now, so must be nearly there?
    Some will say that the £1M goes in to ASD to pay for the advertising and sponsoring of the club. Then when he sells the club + stadium he would get a fair owd pay off...............utm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy King of the West View Post
    I've posted this many times over the years but for some reason it doesn't seem to resonate with people on here, so I'll post again:

    TS would sell RUFC this afternoon. But he will not sell RU Estates Ltd.

    At virtually every fans forum I submit a question asking why RUFC and RU Estates were separated and, if the reason was for keeping the NYS debt off RUFCs accounts, would that situation change once the liability becomes a significant asset?

    The question is never selected.
    Its a very common structure known as "OPCO/PROPCO" and makes sense for both TS and the club, if anything happens to the club the major asset doesn't form part of any debts.

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    I would like to think that somebody in the Real New York could be interested.

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    TS he's misguided but he's tried Rotherham public apart from the hard core haven't in general backed him.

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    Millers fans don't like change and they don't like outsiders. Though it would give them something new to moan about.
    Imo I hope TS is still in charge in 10 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by caytonmiller View Post
    Millers fans don't like change and they don't like outsiders. Though it would give them something new to moan about.
    Imo I hope TS is still in charge in 10 years
    I'm pretty sure Wrexham folk didn't like/trust outsiders but I think most (but probably not all knowing the fickleness of folk) have changed their mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpy King of the West View Post
    I've posted this many times over the years but for some reason it doesn't seem to resonate with people on here, so I'll post again:

    TS would sell RUFC this afternoon. But he will not sell RU Estates Ltd.

    At virtually every fans forum I submit a question asking why RUFC and RU Estates were separated and, if the reason was for keeping the NYS debt off RUFCs accounts, would that situation change once the liability becomes a significant asset?

    The question is never selected.
    It's a truism that dictators like to control the narrative to avoid difficult questions but what is always surprising is that their loyal followers just accept the situation and are seemingly either reluctant or afraid to push for change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAMiller View Post
    I'm pretty sure Wrexham folk didn't like/trust outsiders but I think most (but probably not all knowing the fickleness of folk) have changed their mind.
    Deadpool was conceived in belle view park Wrexham. He's one of their own. Keep up cam

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