Evans still looking upwards

[RU66]

Thinking about it give SE this window I'd say it's not out the question getting the signings that we need we could have a good 2nd half of the season. He's abit stubborn takes some sinking in like me but keeping to how he works usually gets there in end.

[UlleyMiller]

The lack of support on here for SE isn’t representative of the entire fan base. Keep that in mind. This place is an echo chamber for the self-righteous Evans haters who try and vilify him and characterise his behaviour as “shameful”. Yes, a word banned around for his pitch-side antics.

Despite a poor campaign so far he deserves more time to build the side and ethos in his style. And, with the hierarchy we have and the clear lack of strategy and future vision, he is absolutely the right person. Folly to think we bring in a young manager to develop players when the infrastructure does not exist and never will under TS.

I don't speak for anyone else, nor form my opinion based on what I see on here.

Being deserving is completely subjective. Taylor wasn't given time to build his team, and LR certainly wasn't, but it's not often I see anyone suggest either deserved anything. Evans came in with a lot of noise, and the reception from fans will be linked to that. He suggested he would accomplish certain things and he's falling short. As I say, getting rid now does nothing, the timing is off. Others may have differing views and as fans they have that right, just lime I have the right to say I think he's a poor fit, far from decent, and long term both of those will prove to be increasingly harmful.

TS is also a massive part of the problem we have now as a club. Credit where it's due for what he did during the crisis, but we've stagnated and he's part of the same old school that Evans thrives in. Autocratic, one dimensional, limited self awareness.

[Masbroughstreet]

The lack of support on here for SE isn’t representative of the entire fan base. Keep that in mind. This place is an echo chamber for the self-righteous Evans haters who try and vilify him and characterise his behaviour as “shameful”. Yes, a word banned around for his pitch-side antics.

Despite a poor campaign so far he deserves more time to build the side and ethos in his style. And, with the hierarchy we have and the clear lack of strategy and future vision, he is absolutely the right person. Folly to think we bring in a young manager to develop players when the infrastructure does not exist and never will under TS.

You're correct, it isn't representative of the entire fan base, however I don't think this board is an echo chamber of Evans haters. A good number of posters actively stated they'd like to see him return, and a good few more seemed very pleased when he did. Their opinions have changed purely based on the dross that has generally been served up after a preseason of outlandish promises. He's brought a lot of it on himself, if he'd been more sensible with his ambitions in public he wouldn't be getting half of the grief he's getting now. If you talk the talk, you have to walk the walk or you just end up looking an idiot. He isn't the only one at the club guilty of that to be fair to him.

Comments I read on X/Twitter and Facebook suggest the majority of uses on those platform have turned against him. The majority of the season ticket holders who sit around me at New York seemed overjoyed at his return, but as the the season has gone on the abuse in his direction from them gets worse game by game, that's if they bother to turn up at all. Attendances are clearly down. I know plenty of Rotherham fans personally and literally none who I speak to wanted him to return and they wouldn't be sorry to see him leave, although I accept that you'll probably mix with people who think he's great.

So again, you're correct, it's not the entire fan base, but he's lost a sizeable chunk and possibly a majority. I said at the time he was the most toxic appointment we could make as he wouldn't unite the fans, he'd split them and that's exactly what has happened. It's just daft to appoint a manager who a large number of fans already can't stand.

I'm not going to call for anyone to lose their job but out of interest at what point does TS pull the plug in your opinion? If the second half of the season mirrors the first, just how low will the attendances be, do we just carry on regardless if the crowds go down to 3 or 4k? Would you still keep him even if we go down?

[caytonmiller]

I get where your coming from masbrough though if one of our kids is having a tough time in life, be it work or school or a family member is going through a rough patch should we shout abuse at them and berat every decision they make.
As SE said in one of his interviews. He's a human being, a person and a sometimes the pressure gets to him.
Whilst he gets abused from fans for screaming at the players from the side lines think it was nombe who commented he prefers it that way cos he knows deep down Evans wants him to be the best he can be.
Humphrey is the perfect example. Evans publicly blamed him on more than one occasion. And let's all be honest he's been poor for the first half of the season.
Then dumped him in the stands. Evans puts him back in the squad and Humphrey looks like the championship player we all knew he could be.
I hope we have a half decent 2nd half to the season and Evans and the players get some rewards for the effort they are putting in. Can't be hard going to work knowing your 1 mistake away from abuse. Not sure of any other Business that would tolerate it.

[Masbroughstreet]

I get where your coming from masbrough though if one of our kids is having a tough time in life, be it work or school or a family member is going through a rough patch should we shout abuse at them and berat every decision they make.
As SE said in one of his interviews. He's a human being, a person and a sometimes the pressure gets to him.
Whilst he gets abused from fans for screaming at the players from the side lines think it was nombe who commented he prefers it that way cos he knows deep down Evans wants him to be the best he can be.
Humphrey is the perfect example. Evans publicly blamed him on more than one occasion. And let's all be honest he's been poor for the first half of the season.
Then dumped him in the stands. Evans puts him back in the squad and Humphrey looks like the championship player we all knew he could be.
I hope we have a half decent 2nd half to the season and Evans and the players get some rewards for the effort they are putting in. Can't be hard going to work knowing your 1 mistake away from abuse. Not sure of any other Business that would tolerate it.

I don't agree with or condone the abuse he's been getting, I don't partake in it, I'm merely saying it's been happening and with more and more regularity.

I'm happy to be corrected if I've misunderstood your post but it seems you're critical of the abuse directed at Evans, but you're saying the public criticism and constant berating of his players from the touchline is Ok as it seems to have worked? I don't think any other business would tolerate that either.

[caytonmiller]

I don't agree with or condone the abuse he's been getting, I don't partake in it, I'm merely saying it's been happening and with more and more regularity.

I'm happy to be corrected if I've misunderstood your post but it seems you're critical of the abuse directed at Evans, but you're saying the public criticism and constant berating of his players from the touchline is Ok as it seems to have worked? I don't think any other business would tolerate that either.

Didn't think for one minute you were one who would partake in abusing the management and I don't recall you abusing players or other MM members on the board. My post was a follow on from your observation about fans being Evans haters. It was more about fans thinking it's ok to shout abuse at Evans but don't like it when he's doing it to officials/players.
Evans comes across as a horrible c?nt and having chatted over a bottle of wine (he drank it all) I concluded, he's not my cup of tea as a person. Though I do appreciate the effort Evans puts into his role at rufc. Just as I did warne...

[Masbroughstreet]

Thanks for clarifying 👍🏻