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  1. #1
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    I suppose mid-table means you are in the middle pack of 8 teams so 9th to 16th and I hope that we are towards the top of those but with what we have seen this season and the state of the squad I think the bottom half of that group is more likely. I still think one out of the bottom four will crawl up and stay up, that would mean one team above them drops into that place and based on the last three seasons our form (messaged over 6 games) would have to get even worse.

    A few stats for people.
    Last 6 games we average 0.5 points, previous 6 games average 1.83 points, across those 12 games average is 1.16.
    So with 15 games to go those averages could give us 46 points, 66 points or across 12 games 55 points.
    To maintain 14th place over the last three seasons you needed 60, 56, 58 points. So taking the 12 game average we are likely to drop 1 or 2 places. That would put us in the bottom of that middle 8 teams.


    Even if we hit the form of the games that averaged us 1.83 points a game achieving 66 points, over the last three seasons that would have placed us 10th, 10th and 12th. So our best form would only just get us in the top half!!

    So the average across the last 12 league games of 1.16 points a game, if continued for the next 15 games gets us 55 points. Over the last 3 seasons that would have been 16th place, the bottom place of that middle 8 teams.
    Being that staying up is the most realistic target for RUFC this season that is ok, but would TS and SE really tell us that 16th or even 14th is a successful season?
    Last edited by Brin; 16-02-2025 at 04:04 PM.

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    This thread kind of encapsulates the club we all support when so many say they are happy with mid table mediocrity.
    It does make you wonder "what's the point of it all?"
    I guess we'll get a clue when season ticket renewals are due.

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    The point of it all is spending an afternoon watching the sport I love with my son and grandkids. I don't get involved in all the politics of it
    I'm happy when we win, disappointed when we lose. It's sport at the end of the day. No one dies.
    What's the point of it all for you mellow?

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    Unfortunately Mr Evans signed lots of below par players who will linger on next year. JCH, Raggett, Kelly, James, Rafferty etc are not going to improve, they are going to get worse. I think this time next year Paul Warne will be getting his feet under the table again with his sidekick. I don't particularly want it as I think there are German coaches out there who will be better. I just think it will happen and second time round rarely works as we are discovering now and probably will again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tigerish View Post
    Unfortunately Mr Evans signed lots of below par players who will linger on next year. JCH, Raggett, Kelly, James, Rafferty etc are not going to improve, they are going to get worse. I think this time next year Paul Warne will be getting his feet under the table again with his sidekick. I don't particularly want it as I think there are German coaches out there who will be better. I just think it will happen and second time round rarely works as we are discovering now and probably will again
    I can't see Warne coming back Tiger. Mind you I said last March that TS will stick with LR so he can build in the Summer! There's a bit of speculation in the press today about Warne returning.I just think it's an obvious headline. I could see Warne at somewhere like Posh or even Huddersfield if they don't go up this year.Barnsley would be another good shout if they don't improve.

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    Ps when we play we fight to win. Nothing else is acceptable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jocksgloves1 View Post
    The point of it all is spending an afternoon watching the sport I love with my son and grandkids. I don't get involved in all the politics of it
    I'm happy when we win, disappointed when we lose. It's sport at the end of the day. No one dies.
    What's the point of it all for you mellow?
    Well I've done all that for 70 years now and have also taken both my son and grandson to Wembley for play off finals which is something I never thought I'd do.
    In all that time there have been highs and lows, that's the nature of football, but I've found the last few seasons increasingly depressing and so many people I've known for years have just stopped going.
    Presumably they've found better, more interesting things to do with their lives?
    If people are happy watching turgid, pointless football that will achieve nothing at the end of the season that's fine. It's their choice and it's not for me to criticise.
    Personally I prefer us to be more competitive and to challenge for something tangible.
    Isn't that the point of it all?

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    Artell the man can't fault job he's doing at Grimsby. Get him in with enough time to sort out mess that's been made of this season. Kelly Mcdonald out of contract end of the season 1st 2 to go. JCH Raggett loan then out whoever wherever will have them a less combative level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RU66 View Post
    Artell the man can't fault job he's doing at Grimsby. Get him in with enough time to sort out mess that's been made of this season. Kelly Mcdonald out of contract end of the season 1st 2 to go. JCH Raggett loan then out whoever wherever will have them a less combative level.
    JCH & Raggett both signed to boost their private pension pot
    Only way they will go, is by coming to a agreement on a payout on their contracts.

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    Finishing mid table doesn't really bother me, it worries me how we've ended up there. The stubborness of SE/PR not to change things when it was so poor. You could see with who SE signed in the summer that there was no long term plan to get out of the division and think of the Championship.

    SE said yesterday that at half time he changed the formation and we played better. Why didn't we change it about September then?
    TS will see a big change in the summer with Season ticket renewals, how will he react to it is anyones guess............

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