Goalkeeper "injury" breaks

[DoddingtonPie]

It was clear that the subs did a ?warm up? and signalled to the goalie to hit the deck. This allowed Robinson to gather the team together to discuss tactics.

To be honest, I struggle to understand it, as Salford were on top of the game, it was embarrassing. They could have scored 5 or 6 last night, so wide was the gulf between the teams.

Absolute abject performance from Notts.

[durhampie]

I do agree this needs to be looked at, but I think referees judging who should and should not receive treatment due to their opinion of if they are or are not injured is a bad idea, as frustrating as players going down seemingly for no reason is.

Referees can and should certainly be instructed to manage these situations differently when treatment is on-going but like you allude to, I think this and time-wasting in general needs to be a real whole game buy in thing.

I do not really know how you can manage these situations to stop them being the tactical breaks everyone knows they are, but it definitely needs looking at.

Make the go off for 5 minutes, Even if it means playing without a keeper. That will stop it..

[tied_up_in_notts]

I don't think last night's referee was fooled for one moment by their keeper's antics, he was just powerless to do anything about it. He did come over to the keeper when he was receiving treatment and had very stern words with him. I think he was saying that he was adding on every second that he was down, but of course goalkeepers don't do it to waste time.

Referees can't be expected to decide whether a keeper is genuinely injured or not, and making the keeper go off for 5 minutes would be ridiculous - they do get genuinely injured sometimes. But some answer must be found

[marky]

Didn't that Saunders fella claim our goalkeepers do it.
I know Derby's goalkeeper used to do it every game when Paul Warne was manager, funny how it's stopped now he's gone.

[the_anticlough]

Didn't that Saunders fella claim our goalkeepers do it.
I know Derby's goalkeeper used to do it every game when Paul Warne was manager, funny how it's stopped now he's gone.

He did. Perhaps that can be clipped and sent as part of the evidence to the EFL that blatant play-acting is going on.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

Virtually every game now, one team or the other tells their goalkeeper (or occasionally another player) to feign injury in order to manufacture a break to give tactical instructions to their team. I believe Danny Cowley started it at Lincoln, and now it has become the norm, accepted by players, management and officials alike.

This is an insult to football fans, who do not pay to watch players standing around drinking and chatting mid-way through a half, interrupting the flow of the game sorting out tactics that should have been figured out on training grounds during the week.

It needs to be stamped out, with referees being given licence to refuse treatment to goalkeepers/players who are feigning injury as blatantly as Salford's goalkeeper did last night. In fact, why not book the offending player for simulation? The fans were singing "there's f*ck all wrong with him" and of course everybody in the stadium knew that was true.

If the authorities don't take a firm line on this, then don't come bleating about "fair play" and "respect", because there's none being shown to the paying public by allowing this nonsense.

It is a nuisance and it needs to stop. Morally it is wrong as it is feigning injury and is a cry wolf scenario that children are taught from a young age not to cry wolf. It’s supposed to be a professional game and players are role models. It is unsportsmanlike conduct and sets a bad example. It doesn’t help that both teams will take the opportunity if one does it as well.

The authorities have to come down hard on it from next season. Large groups of players going over to the bench when a goalkeeper or outfield player goes down “injured” should not be allowed. There is no need for the players at the opposite side of the pitch to go over. If they want to use the break as an opportunity to have a quick drink put drinks over that side of the pitch before the game starts.

[irishpete]

Bass has done it, so can't complain about last night. But yes the bigger issue is it needs clamping down on

[1955pie]

Just make sure none of the other players leave the pitch or gather around the physio coming on. Make them go to the centre circle or the opposite side of the pitch. There?s only so much a physio can pass on to the keeper to pass on to the players.
It?s got totally out of hand and needs stamping down on next season.

When an any player is about to receive treatment, the coaching staff of both teams should be required to go to the dugout.
Anyone coming out of the dugout would then be booked by the 4th official.
A second booking would be a red card.

[SwalePie]

When an any player is about to receive treatment, the coaching staff of both teams should be required to go to the dugout.
Anyone coming out of the dugout would then be booked by the 4th official.
A second booking would be a red card.

Makes a fair bit of sense that! Although any potential substitute should really be allowed to warm up ready to replace the player in case it is genuine.

[Mark_Ross]

Seems like there's two issues here:
1. Unlawful coaching. Interesting ideas posted.
2. Time wasting. For a while the time-keepers were actually doing their job. If a team wasted 10 minutes then 10 minutes was added on. But now we've just gone back to the conservative "just guess 3 or 4 mins method".