Players to stay and those to go

[Acido]

Neerav Parekh, Julie Anne Quay.

Yeah admittedly, that did make me laugh. 😁
But what about M'lad, surely he's got to be shown the nearest door!.

How many times in recent years have we kept saying that a clear out, a huge rebuild in the summer is needed etc.
Well obviously, that is needed now and probably more than its ever been needed before.
This lot aren't going to throw large money into transfers, but they could at least be doing it more sensibly.

[Young_Nudger]

Your just a bit salty because Hourihane got the job and your prediction of a foreign coach was way off the mark .

I know you struggle with thinking so I'll walk you through this , you might not have noticed but not everyone who supports this club is of the same age which means many didn't see Glavin , Banks , Agnew , Redders or even Hignett .

Which means Connor Hourihane was probably the best player they'd seen if they were a certain age , also going to Wembley twice in 6 weeks and seeing their hero lift two trophies tends to hold someone in esteem , it's not actual routine for this club to lift two trophies at Wembley in 6 weeks .

Always happy to help .

Yes those are the players I was thinking about.
You can add Molby to that list - and I?m sure some on here can think of a few others.

And yes - more than surprised about the appointment of Conor.
But as I?ve said on Facebook BBS - I think there?s been a change of approach by the club that has resulted in the appointment of Conor.
That?s right - the Barnsley Way maybe going through an overhaul.

Indications by the club and from those with links to the club were suggesting a foreign coach.
A coach that played in the style the club wants to see - but Flatman and especially Sormaz has seen the hard work and emphasis to detail that Conor has shown - plus importantly - and I?m guessing here but IMO the club has also seen an opportunity to mould a HC into something that they want.

Conor comes with no previous experience - a clean sheet that the club can work on.
He doesn?t come with the baggage of using different playing styles like previous HCs.

An opportunity exists at the end of the season to try a different approach when there?s nothing to play for.
Hence the experiment with a different formation such as the flat back 4.
IMO - this experiment has been sanctioned by Sormaz to investigate different ways of doing things.
What we probably have now is a Sormaz / Hourihane partnership.
That is a much tighter link than what Sormaz had with Clarke..

[pass_and_move]

Yes those are the players I was thinking about.
You can add Molby to that list - and I?m sure some on here can think of a few others.

And yes - more than surprised about the appointment of Conor.
But as I?ve said on Facebook BBS - I think there?s been a change of approach by the club that has resulted in the appointment of Conor.
That?s right - the Barnsley Way maybe going through an overhaul.

Indications by the club and from those with links to the club were suggesting a foreign coach.
A coach that played in the style the club wants to see - but Flatman and especially Sormaz has seen the hard work and emphasis to detail that Conor has shown - plus importantly - and I?m guessing here but IMO the club has also seen an opportunity to mould a HC into something that they want.

Conor comes with no previous experience - a clean sheet that the club can work on.
He doesn?t come with the baggage of using different playing styles like previous HCs.

An opportunity exists at the end of the season to try a different approach when there?s nothing to play for.
Hence the experiment with a different formation such as the flat back 4.
IMO - this experiment has been sanctioned by Sormaz to investigate different ways of doing things.
What we probably have now is a Sormaz / Hourihane partnership.
That is a much tighter link than what Sormaz had with Clarke..

You'll just never get it will you. Oh well, never mind.

[Shadrack the Red]

I?m sure yer only joking Shads about wanting to throw everyone out of the door.
And I might be getting the wrong idea here - but Hourihane is viewed by some as the second coming.
And I don?t understand it.

As far as I?m concerned - Hourihane was a good midfielder for us - but I?ve seen much better midfielders in a Tykes shirt.
And although our owner begged him to stay and offered him big money he chose to go to another club - which is fair enough.
So what?s the big deal about Conor - because I can?t see why some supporters hold him in such high esteem ???

You have started a thread about a retained list that is why I joined in, if you want to debate the appointment of Conner then feel free to do so but you are trying to deflect from your original post .

[animallittle3]

Yes those are the players I was thinking about.
You can add Molby to that list - and I?m sure some on here can think of a few others.

And yes - more than surprised about the appointment of Conor.
But as I?ve said on Facebook BBS - I think there?s been a change of approach by the club that has resulted in the appointment of Conor.
That?s right - the Barnsley Way maybe going through an overhaul.

Indications by the club and from those with links to the club were suggesting a foreign coach.
A coach that played in the style the club wants to see - but Flatman and especially Sormaz has seen the hard work and emphasis to detail that Conor has shown - plus importantly - and I?m guessing here but IMO the club has also seen an opportunity to mould a HC into something that they want.

Conor comes with no previous experience - a clean sheet that the club can work on.
He doesn?t come with the baggage of using different playing styles like previous HCs.

An opportunity exists at the end of the season to try a different approach when there?s nothing to play for.
Hence the experiment with a different formation such as the flat back 4.
IMO - this experiment has been sanctioned by Sormaz to investigate different ways of doing things.
What we probably have now is a Sormaz / Hourihane partnership.
That is a much tighter link than what Sormaz had with Clarke..

As conspiracy theories go that's right up there with 9/11 or the Moon landings .

The chances of a multi millionaire ex Premier League and international footballer signing up to be moulded by an Indian rich kid , an Australian fashion designer and an ex university bean counter in most people's eyes would be pretty slim .

[Arblasterfromthepast]

Yes those are the players I was thinking about.
You can add Molby to that list - and I?m sure some on here can think of a few others.

And yes - more than surprised about the appointment of Conor.
But as I?ve said on Facebook BBS - I think there?s been a change of approach by the club that has resulted in the appointment of Conor.
That?s right - the Barnsley Way maybe going through an overhaul.

Indications by the club and from those with links to the club were suggesting a foreign coach.
A coach that played in the style the club wants to see - but Flatman and especially Sormaz has seen the hard work and emphasis to detail that Conor has shown - plus importantly - and I?m guessing here but IMO the club has also seen an opportunity to mould a HC into something that they want.

Conor comes with no previous experience - a clean sheet that the club can work on.
He doesn?t come with the baggage of using different playing styles like previous HCs.

An opportunity exists at the end of the season to try a different approach when there?s nothing to play for.
Hence the experiment with a different formation such as the flat back 4.
IMO - this experiment has been sanctioned by Sormaz to investigate different ways of doing things.
What we probably have now is a Sormaz / Hourihane partnership.
That is a much tighter link than what Sormaz had with Clarke..

I think you're right that the end of the season is the time to experiment and it's a great time for Conor to find out more about the players and the team.
You are also correct, in my opinion, that it's a good opportunity for the club to mould Conor as a coach, just as much as it's an opportunity for Conor to stamp his ideas and authority on the football side of things as well as influencing transfer decisions. After all, we need the playing side and the management to work as one if we want to be successful.
Regarding the retained list, I won't comment because I've only seen one game all season. But what I will say is, Conor has given a good opportunity to the players to prove themselves in the last 10 games so any players who aren't retained have only themselves to blame or maybe didn't want to be here in the first place.

[animallittle3]

I think you're right that the end of the season is the time to experiment and it's a great time for Conor to find out more about the players and the team.
You are also correct, in my opinion, that it's a good opportunity for the club to mould Conor as a coach, just as much as it's an opportunity for Conor to stamp his ideas and authority on the football side of things as well as influencing transfer decisions. After all, we need the playing side and the management to work as one if we want to be successful.
Regarding the retained list, I won't comment because I've only seen one game all season. But what I will say is, Conor has given a good opportunity to the players to prove themselves in the last 10 games so any players who aren't retained have only themselves to blame or maybe didn't want to be here in the first place.

Just out of interest Arby , who do you believe has the capability and credibility to mould Conor Hourihane at the club currently ?

[Young_Nudger]

You have started a thread about a retained list that is why I joined in, if you want to debate the appointment of Conner then feel free to do so but you are trying to deflect from your original post .

See private message.

[Young_Nudger]

Just out of interest Arby , who do you believe has the capability and credibility to mould Conor Hourihane at the club currently ?

I?ll answer that.
No one.

[Arblasterfromthepast]

Just out of interest Arby , who do you believe has the capability and credibility to mould Conor Hourihane at the club currently ?

Short answer is I don't know Animal. And I agree credibility is an issue at the moment.There have been numerous mistakes made so far, as we know, by the management team, and I include Sormaz obviously in that. Having made mistakes, you would hope that they've learned a lot from them.
Sormaz has I believe held similar posts elsewhere and therefore must have experience qualities to obtain these positions in football. He's the one that can bring Conor on in terms of working with Conor to bring him up to speed with the workings of the transfer market etc, which I presume Conor has little experience of. Then there are the other coaches around Conor that can also feed in their experience.
If Sormaz goes, then the club can play it's part in ensuring the new DOF is someone that can provide the support Conor probably needs.
Neerav, clearly he's not going to mould Conor as a coach on the footballing side but he will have some input into ensuring the support that Conor is given is the right support and the support that even Conor himself feels he requires.
The choice of DOF, even if it is Sormaz staying on, are all decisions taken by club management and will certainly mould Conor as a coach. The support he's given, and chooses to accept, are now incredibly important for the club and not just in terms of the players signed.
Looking back at my career, there are many people that have influenced me; some positively others not so positively. But even negative influences can be turned to a positive. I credit Conor with intelligence. I look at how he listened to Wilson, Johnson etc who I would credit with making his footballing career to some extent.