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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammy89 View Post
    On top of all this - they are going to lose their "elite" status with adidas.

    Which means they lose all this:

    Benefits of Elite Status:
    Bespoke Kits:
    Elite clubs get their own "Authentic" kits, which are made with premium materials and are the same as the players' jerseys.

    Special Collections:
    Beyond just the kit, elite clubs also receive special edition shirts, t-shirts, hoodies, trainers, and other apparel.

    Access to Distribution Network:
    Elite status ensures that clubs and their fans have access to Adidas' global distribution network for these special collections.

    Potential Financial Rewards:
    Elite status often translates to more lucrative sponsorship deals and higher financial payouts for the clubs.
    Due to their global brand recognition I think that would take a few more seasons outside the top 10.

    Soccer (football) shirt sales worldwide in 2021, by club (in units)
    Characteristic Number of shirts sold
    Manchester United 1,950,000
    Juventus 1,420,000
    Barcelona 1,340,000
    Chelsea 1,310,000

    They sell almost 2 million shirts globally. Adidas won't want to lose those sales by downgrading their status.

    However, in 5 - 10 yrs time when the glory hunters have switch allegiances as they always do, those numbers will drop off and they'll start to lose their elite status.

    The tiered sponsorship deals is where they will really be hurt.

    FA sponsor's contract has tiers. For example. Prem only, Europa, Champions League.

    Depending on the competition determines the annual amount of sponsorship.

    A club like the filth won't have a Championship clause as it's thought that that would never happen to those arrogant scumbags. It should have this season but for the 3 nae hopers.

    However, finishing 17th will mean they earn around £30m less from Prem money than the board will have forecast last summer. Great.

    But also, no UCL or any kind of Europe will see them lose easily as much again if not closer to £50-60m in additional UCL Tier Global Sponsorship deals.

    Brands want to be associated with winners and the expect to have their brand's Exposure right there on screen when the Real Madrid Manager is being interviewed or the players are lined up pre-match for the photo. etc

    A match away at Carrow Road or St Mary's doesn't motivate Microsoft or Chevy but a visit to the Camp Nou or San Siro does.

    With the business model they operate a consistent sustained period of 5+ yrs outside the to 8 could spell disaster for them.

    Sadly what it would mean is a weakening in share price & the Glazers/leather scrote wanting to dump the asset.

    If they've saddled the club with another £2b of debt taking the total debt to £3.1 - 3.2 Billion, Ratsack will want his £1.7B back + profit meaning that any owner will have to come up with at least £5B just to cover the outstanding.

    With the Glazers presumably wanting to make huge profit, as the club is a cash cow and basically collateral for any and all other projects, they are going to want a sizable buy out fee.

    That would mean £7-8 Billion.

    The club squad value is €699.25m - £588.31m

    The stadium, training ground and other physical assets are probably valued around the same. A total of £1.3B being generous.

    The Brand logo, IP etc is worth probably another £1 - 1.5B

    The true value of the filth is around £2.8 - 3.2B - £3.5B at most.

    That value is only going to dwindle as they continue to fail.

    Boo hoo hahaha

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    Finance Expert REVEALS the HUGE IMPACT of WINNNG or LOSING the Europa League for Man United of Spurs

    Former Man City financial Council Stephan Borsen speaks on the finances.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DfuenJdvJ4

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    Its tremendous theyve missed europe next season but, at the risk of beating the same drum, their large financial (income) clout means itll take a couple more seasons of this performance to make a real dent.
    It makes a complete mockery of PSR - hobo Jim cutting the xmas parties, with plans for a mega stadium and an on pitch crisis. They can depend sh*tloads whilst well run clubs like us cannot?.and they were allowed to cheat over covid.

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    Stephan recons without progressing to the KO stages the Premier League teams in generate around ?80m for qualification and playing the Swiss style league matches.

    That's huge!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragatino View Post
    The true value of the filth is around £2.8 - 3.2B - £3.5B at most.
    Man Utd shares are traded at 2.27B market cap as of yesterday. And this is in usd, so around 1.7B quids

    Mind you, Ratcliffe paid 1.6B for 29% of the club, market value of his share is 0.66B now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marat18 View Post
    Man Utd shares are traded at 2.27B market cap as of yesterday. And this is in usd, so around 1.7B quids

    Mind you, Ratcliffe paid 1.6B for 29% of the club, market value of his share is 0.66B now.
    Class B shares
    Ratcliffe has agreed to purchase 25% of the team's class B shares, largely held by the Glazer family, which holds most of the voting rights, and up to 25% of its class

    A shares and B shares are different classes of shares, often within the same company, with variations in voting rights, dividends, and capital distribution. A shares typically have more voting power and/or higher priority for dividends, while B shares might have limited voting rights or lower priority for dividends, says Investopedia and says SmartAsset A shares, which are listed on the New York Stock Exchange.

    B Shares (Class :
    Voting Rights:
    May have fewer or no voting rights compared to A shares, potentially limiting their influence on company decisions.
    Dividend Priority:
    May have lower priority for dividends, meaning they receive a smaller share of the company's profits compared to A shares.
    Capital Distribution:
    May have lower priority for capital distribution in case of liquidation or bankruptcy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragatino View Post
    Due to their global brand recognition I think that would take a few more seasons outside the top 10.
    I'd agree with this but it was quite widely reported and they do say no smoke without fire.

    Maybe it's not quite as drastic as losing that status straight off but they are def getting hit by Adidas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jammy89 View Post
    I'd agree with this but it was quite widely reported and they do say no smoke without fire.

    Maybe it's not quite as drastic as losing that status straight off but they are def getting hit by Adidas

    And I would wager that Adidas won't be the only ones wanting a taste of blood.

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/c8e61d656w5o

    McTominey has been a massive hit in Napoli, helping them to a title and scoring 12 goals in the process - many game winning.

    I couldn't understsnd them selling him at the time and for 25 mill or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sclox View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/c8e61d656w5o

    McTominey has been a massive hit in Napoli, helping them to a title and scoring 12 goals in the process - many game winning.

    I couldn't understsnd them selling him at the time and for 25 mill or something.
    Prime example of a manager / head coach whatever they are these days actually doing their job.

    Conte has adapted a system that plays to the strength of his squad.

    Rather than using a hammer as a screwdriver, Conte has shown why he is a top coach the consistently wins.

    Amorim and Ange have both got their ?systems? and fair play, but if the players are not there, learn as a coach and play to the strengths you have at your disposal rather than wasting time hammering a screw or trying to screw a nail.

    Both Spurs and Man Utd, for all their flaws, have decent squads, albeit a bit of a mash up of previous managers identities.

    What happened to to assessing what you have and figuring out how to get the best out of it? A ?ready steady cook? coach. Look at your ingredients and use your skill to make something wonderful!

    Amorim needs the right players for his system

    Ange needs a tactically poor league for his system

    Coaches like Conte cans find success (of some form) nearly wherever they go

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