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Thread: Lessons learned from first game

  1. #11
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    On the showing v Spurs the team can be improved in three key areas. Tuanzebe, Beyer or Humphreys should come in to defence when fit. Ugochukwu should start in midfield and Broja up front with Tchaouna.
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  2. #12
    On reflection,for me it was all very reminiscent of 2 seasons ago.3-0 defeat but to a team not as good as Man City.Once again many of the players looked like they were rabbits caught in the headlights.Only Dobravka,Walker and maybe Esteve looked comfortable at this level.
    Spurs today are not the Man City of two seasons ago yet the game was earily similar.Unless Broja gets fit and on the pitch then we are still no nearer finding the onion bag than we were then.We have yet to really see our new signings but the starting eleven yesterday looked much weaker than our starting eleven at the end of last season.Midfield and up front we were simply lightweight and firing blanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by army88 View Post
    Bit of both for me Darkness , however what I would say is Cullen does well to a point and then decides to let Kudos run when he should imo of brought him down - last times lessons don?t let ball be delivered into the 6 yard box un opposed as it usually results in conceding goals especially when your centre back isn?t even looking at who he?s marking he?s watching kudos deliver it On a plate for rcharlison. ( horrible human being )

    2nds a wotrldy but he got 5 yards again and 3rd were asleep and Johnson is already running -

    We had weak links in 3-4 positions and we ended up paying the ultimate price as teams just do not allow you to get away with that - and just like previous if you don?t take your chances and hit the target when it?s there games quickly get out of reach.
    Just watched it again and Esteve should have cleared the ball into the stand or up field. We had been under constant pressure for those first 9 minutes and it needed the heat taking out of the situation. FTD if you think that that was 5 minutes beforehand, you need to get your watch fixed.

    As for Kudus, remember West Ham at home two seasons ago. We were winning with 5 minutes to go when Kudus beat Charlie Taylor crossed the ball and O-Shea scored an own goal. Five minutes later and 1 minute into added time Kudus got another cross in and Coufal (I think) scored the winner.

    I know that we have a totally different team, however, it is the responsibility of management and staff to know who is likely to give us problems. We must not have done our homework because that West Ham game was a real giveaway. Our seventh home game of the season which shold have been our first win but ended in defeat because we allowed them to get crosses into the box. Nothing changes.

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    I’m not too bothered about all the doom merchants out after just one game. What is concerning is the number of key players who are out injured/not ready at the start of the season. We need a stronger line up v Black Cats.

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    Both Kudus and Semenyo will cause us problems Supersub6, along with the 19 other teams across the EPL. Did you see Semenyo at Anfield on Friday night, he is exactly the type of player we need, not lightweights like Benson, Edwards, Koleosho, Tresor, Banel, Agyei, Adewumi, Churlinov, Tchaouna and Larsen. It's frightening when you realise just how bad our recruitment really is. What exactly are we doing about Tresor, anyone know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersub6 View Post
    Just watched it again and Esteve should have cleared the ball into the stand or up field. We had been under constant pressure for those first 9 minutes and it needed the heat taking out of the situation. FTD if you think that that was 5 minutes beforehand, you need to get your watch fixed.

    As for Kudus, remember West Ham at home two seasons ago. We were winning with 5 minutes to go when Kudus beat Charlie Taylor crossed the ball and O-Shea scored an own goal. Five minutes later and 1 minute into added time Kudus got another cross in and Coufal (I think) scored the winner.

    I know that we have a totally different team, however, it is the responsibility of management and staff to know who is likely to give us problems. We must not have done our homework because that West Ham game was a real giveaway. Our seventh home game of the season which shold have been our first win but ended in defeat because we allowed them to get crosses into the box. Nothing changes.
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    As I put going back previously 2 seasons we let ball be delivered into our box and at this level you can’t that - kudos as you say has done it before to us and others but in a line of events I think Esteve should have given it the big boot - Cullen should have brought him down when he had the chance ( we can argue wether that’s wrong or right - but I’d have done my absolute best including bringing him down to stop the ball going in our box.

    Ekdal is a ball watching centre back lacking a yard or two of pace at this level and switched off for their first and third no pace to get back around.

    Your also right that the management are complicit in all of the above - knowledge of opposing players - selection of our players and formations to trouble the opposition and as it looked we didn’t really commit to any of the above, part of me thinks that Parker was somehow sentimentally caught up in going back to his old club where he was loved and the other part of me thinks he picked the wrong personnel and didn’t react to stop them driving their bus through the middle of the park.

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    Far, far too early to be talking about 'must win' games, but next Saturday we certainly don't want to be getting beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Far, far too early to be talking about 'must win' games, but next Saturday we certainly don't want to be getting beat.
    Sunderland will want to get one over on their relegation rivals and will be full of confidence after yesterday.After what happened at the Turf last time round they will desperately want to win.I am predicting a 2-0 win to Sunderland.
    I hope Cardy changes the starting eleven and proves me wrong.

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    Dave Thornley writing for Clarets Mad gives us his thoughts on our opening day defeat against Tottenham Hotspur.
    In the end, it didn’t go the way we had hoped, but rather the way most of us had anticipated.
    Throughout our various seasons in the Premier League, we have witnessed many other examples of yesterday’s season opener at the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium; earnest endeavour undone by technically superior opponents imposing that superiority.
    It took a mere ten minutes for Spurs to unlock a Burnley defence so unyielding last season in the Championship; Maxime Esteve being drawn out wide then playing a loose pass which produced a cross and a neat finish from Richarlison. It was an uncharacteristic lapse from Esteve and one which might easily have gone unpunished last season, but not in the rarefied atmosphere of the Premier League.
    Despite the early setback, Burnley maintained a strong presence in the game for an hour, but the Richarlison second goal, a spectacular airborne scissor kick, ended the Clarets’ resistance, before Brennan Johnson concluded a slick move to add Spurs’ third.
    Previous experience has taught us the folly of raised expectations and if we were under any illusions about the size of the task ahead of Scott Parker and his team, then yesterday’s result will have surely dispelled them.
    This does not mean that relegation should be regarded as a pre-ordained outcome; yesterday’s performance showed distinct signs of promise and not all of Burnley’s opponents will be as testing as Spurs, who were out to impress a new manager and in front of their own supporters.
    Burnley will, of course, need to do better in key areas; the pace of their play needs to quicken; lapses of concentration must be eradicated, and more chances need to be both created and finished.
    Scott Parker does not need me to remind him of this; he and his coaching staff will be acutely aware of the work that needs to be undertaken before a buoyant Sunderland visit Turf Moor next week.
    The Black Cats gave Burnley more problems than any other opponent last season and their return to the Premier League yesterday afternoon was, in contrast to Burnley’s, in front of their own fans and against a poor West Ham team. The odds – whilst stacked against Burnley – were lined up in favour of Sunderland. This needs to be reversed next Saturday.
    Editor’s note: I have backed us this season in the English Premier League to win ten games, draw ten games and lose 18 I still have a further 17 losses to go. Can we pretty please get Nathan back?

  10. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Far, far too early to be talking about 'must win' games, but next Saturday we certainly don't want to be getting beat.
    My 9-year-old grandson who is learning more and more football speak day by day, says this game is a definite six pointer and can we please go on early granddad?

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