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  1. #1
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    I take your points, and there's truth in much of what you're saying. Winning a trophy just over a year ago the EFL Cup is an achievement, and plenty of established Premier League clubs would love to say the same. That shouldn't be dismissed or forgotten.

    At the same time, football moves quickly and expectations evolve. Success raises the bar, so when performances dip, questions are inevitable. That isn't short memory; it's a reaction to current standards rather than past success.

    The striker situation is a valid factor. Losing a key forward in disruptive circumstances affects balance and confidence, and late replacements who haven't delivered only add to the problem. It's fair to question those decisions, but recruitment is rarely down to one person I presume it's typically a combinationof factors.

    Fixture congestion and injuries have also played a major role. Competing on multiple fronts stretches any squad, and when injuries mount, teams struggle. That context must be part of the assessment.

    Media speculation is another constant. A manager like Eddie Howe will always attract attention, and links to clubs such as Chelsea FC come with the territory. It doesn?t mean much, but the noise can still be a distraction.

    Where I'd push back slightly is the idea that fans shouldn't criticise. Supporters are invested, and frustration is part of that. There's a clear line between constructive criticism and unfair attacks. Howe has done an excellent job overall, lifting the club, delivering silverware, and restoring competitiveness so he's earned a degree of trust and respect.

    The fairest position, in my view, is to recognise the progress and the context, back the manager through a difficult spell, but still allow room to question decisions and performances. Blind loyalty doesn't help, but nor does turning too quickly. That said, Howe also needs to reflect on why things have dipped. Some of his decisions have been open to question, and this may be the moment to adapt whether in tactics, selection, or approach rather than sticking rigidly to what has worked before. Too early for a statue!
    Last edited by Curian; 01-05-2026 at 07:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curian View Post
    but recruitment is rarely down to one person I presume it's typically a combinationof factors.
    Usually it would be but and I think a significant one, is that last transfer window it was seemingly just Eddie and his nephew who were doing transfers cos everybody else had left or was in the process of leaving.

    Not sure if it makes things better or worse but thought it was worth flagging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curian View Post
    The fairest position, in my view, is to recognise the progress and the context, back the manager through a difficult spell, but still allow room to question decisions and performances. Blind loyalty doesn't help, but nor does turning too quickly. That said, Howe also needs to reflect on why things have dipped. Some of his decisions have been open to question, and this may be the moment to adapt whether in tactics, selection, or approach rather than sticking rigidly to what has worked before. Too early for a statue!
    Absolutely. agree. Eddie has done a fantastic job until this season. And the early part of this season was a crock of sh!t for many reasons - the Isak affair and the total lack of a coherent pre-reason were critical. But we've had poor starts before, then come good as the season progressed.
    Fine, this was a hugely disastrous start to the season. And not Eddies fault that the Isak situation was mis-managed. But I still expected a real kick-on as the season progressed and the fixtures thinned our.
    Well, it hasn't happened. In fact I see no real improvement whatsoever recently, at least in the Prem matchres, which are all that really count now.

    This, to me, is the real issue. What Eddie has done in the past is brilliant. I love the guy and what he has done for the club. Fantastic, never thought I'd see us play so well, ride so high again.
    But what he is doing right now is just not working. The reasons for our poor start should be well dead and gone by now. But we continually playing like a team with no real strategy, no belief, no real will to win it seems.. That is my problem. Why????? On paper, we have squad that should be playing, and getting results, way better than we are at the moment. We aren't, and the buck has to stop with the manager.
    As I've said, I suspect that he needs to step back, take time to think why it's turned to rat-sh!t. But when you're fronting a team with the expectations that NUFC have now, time is not on your side. Especially when your CEO publicly states you could be one of the top teams in the world in 4 years time. tw@t.
    I don't want Eddie to go at all. I'm just worried that he's under too much pressure at the moment. Not at all good for him mentally, or for the club.
    I really do hope he can sort things out in the remains of the season and the summer. I'm just afraid that, on present evidence, it seems unlikely.
    I hope I'm wrong. Very wrong would be even better!
    Last edited by OwdBillCook; 01-05-2026 at 08:59 PM.

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    Well said Bill, always the voice of reason.

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    Hah! The voice of a senile old f@rt is probably nearer the mark!!

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