21/22 Season tix

[offshore_arab83]

I've been told that there is no means of contact with the ogrens for anyone apart from TA, everything goes through him for any contact but that might be what they wanted, they maybe didnt want various people contacting them directly, especially when they have other business interests.

i've stuck up for TA since day 1, when plenty criticised him basically for being a hun, but for once i'm not getting warm fuzzy feelings especially with MM leaving and the imminent appointment of a complete unknown, that is not, IMO whats best for the club.

[Shedboy1971]

I've been told that there is no means of contact with the ogrens for anyone apart from TA, everything goes through him for any contact but that might be what they wanted, they maybe didnt want various people contacting them directly, especially when they have other business interests.

i've stuck up for TA since day 1, when plenty criticised him basically for being a hun, but for once i'm not getting warm fuzzy feelings especially with MM leaving and the imminent appointment of a complete unknown, that is not, IMO whats best for the club.

so are you saying there are shady going ons with the whistle blowing suggestions box and the regular fires?

[offshore_arab83]

so are you saying there are shady going ons with the whistle blowing suggestions box and the regular fires?

lord watson is not involved mate

[AraBrian]

I've been told that there is no means of contact with the ogrens for anyone apart from TA, everything goes through him for any contact but that might be what they wanted, they maybe didnt want various people contacting them directly, especially when they have other business interests.

i've stuck up for TA since day 1, when plenty criticised him basically for being a hun, but for once i'm not getting warm fuzzy feelings especially with MM leaving and the imminent appointment of a complete unknown, that is not, IMO whats best for the club.

I am not getting the way the club is being run.Know you and others on here know lot more about it than me.What I am getting by reading you'r and other post is that TA is running the club completely doing what he wants and what he wants is good for him and his son and crap for the club.He wants to put a youth coach in charge off the footballing side who is not ready for that just so he can have a yes man in charge and does not care that he is not qualified for the post.The ogrens will not listen to anyone say anything bad about TA and are happy for him to run the club into the ground.The guy courts is a done deal but club are refusing to announce it.Know this might come across as me having a dig at you and others who are more in the know than myself but that is more or less what I am getting from what is being said is this sort if the gist of what is happening?

[offshore_arab83]

I am not getting the way the club is being run.Know you and others on here know lot more about it than me.What I am getting by reading you'r and other post is that TA is running the club completely doing what he wants and what he wants is good for him and his son and crap for the club.He wants to put a youth coach in charge off the footballing side who is not ready for that just so he can have a yes man in charge and does not care that he is not qualified for the post.The ogrens will not listen to anyone say anything bad about TA and are happy for him to run the club into the ground.The guy courts is a done deal but club are refusing to announce it.Know this might come across as me having a dig at you and others who are more in the know than myself but that is more or less what I am getting from what is being said is this sort if the gist of what is happening?

as above Brian im referring to the leaving of MM, what really happened? and the supposed imminent appointment of Kelty Hearts Legend Tam, what are the club thinking about?

I havent really said anything on how the club has been run so unfair to say TA is running it how he wants as we've no real examples of this apart from the stories circulating round the toon, we've heard various things and that TA and other have the wool pulled over the Ogrens eyes but again up to now zero proof

I dont think its that the Ogrens arent 'listening to anything bad about TA' as i dont think theres been anything said and theres no way of anyone contacting them either.

As i said in another post, im not getting warm fuzzy feelings

[AraBrian]

as above Brian im referring to the leaving of MM, what really happened? and the supposed imminent appointment of Kelty Hearts Legend Tam, what are the club thinking about?

I havent really said anything on how the club has been run so unfair to say TA is running it how he wants as we've no real examples of this apart from the stories circulating round the toon, we've heard various things and that TA and other have the wool pulled over the Ogrens eyes but again up to now zero proof

I dont think its that the Ogrens arent 'listening to anything bad about TA' as i dont think theres been anything said and theres no way of anyone contacting them either.

As i said in another post, im not getting warm fuzzy feelings

Really not trying to be arguementitive here just trying to get my head round whats going on.If TA has sacked MM to get his son a promotion and is appointing a youth team coach to run the football side so he will do as he is told it kind of looks like TA is running it how he wants if Ogren knows they have sacked a decent manager to replace him with an untried youth team coach because MM objected to TA running the playing side of the club think we are in big trouble and if Ogren does not know and wont let anyone tell him then we are still in a lot of trouble.

[offshore_arab83]

Really not trying to be arguementitive here just trying to get my head round whats going on.If TA has sacked MM to get his son a promotion and is appointing a youth team coach to run the football side so he will do as he is told it kind of looks like TA is running it how he wants if Ogren knows they have sacked a decent manager to replace him with an untried youth team coach because MM objected to TA running the playing side of the club think we are in big trouble and if Ogren does not know and wont let anyone tell him then we are still in a lot of trouble.

either way its no looking to good is it

[tHeArAb]

I am not getting the way the club is being run.Know you and others on here know lot more about it than me.What I am getting by reading you'r and other post is that TA is running the club completely doing what he wants and what he wants is good for him and his son and crap for the club.He wants to put a youth coach in charge off the footballing side who is not ready for that just so he can have a yes man in charge and does not care that he is not qualified for the post.The ogrens will not listen to anyone say anything bad about TA and are happy for him to run the club into the ground.The guy courts is a done deal but club are refusing to announce it.Know this might come across as me having a dig at you and others who are more in the know than myself but that is more or less what I am getting from what is being said is this sort if the gist of what is happening?

Apart from the 'happy to run the club into the ground' part, that's exactly what's going on. Ogren is showing an incredible amount of naivety by allowing Asghar as much control as he has. Maybe he blindly trusts him but in the best interests of Dundee Utd Football Club he needs to wake up & smell the f*cking coffee here.

[AraBrian]

Apart from the 'happy to run the club into the ground' part, that's exactly what's going on. Ogren is showing an incredible amount of naivety by allowing Asghar as much control as he has. Maybe he blindly trusts him but in the best interests of Dundee Utd Football Club he needs to wake up & smell the f*cking coffee here.

Yeah well if thats all true sounds like ogren not to bright if TA really at it and ogren not able to see it and other directors not able to see it or are going along with it or are unable to do anything about it or contact ogren then seems club is in a real mess and we are probably lucky we have managed to get out of championship and stay in top league and get youth set up working so well despite what is going on behind the scenes.Am bit muddled as to why the club will not announce the new manager if it is widely known who it is also but a lot about this has me totally confused.I never thought mellon would leave or be fired then never thought they would give the post to a youth team coach to be run by TA who really is not qualified to be running the playing side so really if all this you guys are saying is true and I have no reason to doubt you's and you's have no reason to make this stuff up then looks like utd are f..ked.

[TerryTheTerror]

My season ticket will be going back and full credits from last season redeemed if this Courts chunt gets the gig. 100% serious btw. What a mess!

Good luck with that. You reckon it's even a possibility? Doubt it.