O/T:- Ukraine [Incorporating 'Congrats to Russia' thread]

[BigFatPie]

Ok, regardless if it’s Labour, Conservatives, Libs, SNP etc they are all as bad as each other and I genuinely don’t give a flying feck about who’s done what who’s said what, there are incompetents in all parties and equally bad decisions made by all of them. It doesn’t matter who’s in charge there would be pointless posts like yours trying to play the blame game, it is what it is, you can’t change it, it’s life let it pass. If you want to take out your political ‘issues’ try it with someone who cares, I’m genuinely not bothered about your political stance or feelings. The thread is about Ukraine not about people pushing their ‘political issues’ and ‘agendas’, I’m sure there’s some on here who would love to have a go with you ideally on the handbags thread and away from here.

Lolz. If you don’t like people commenting on your stupid opinions maybe don’t post them in the first place.

[keldsyke]

That might make sense if you hadn't posted this:



How is that not an anti-labour agenda?

It’s not anti-labour it’s about two people involved in politics along with Johnson, Reece Mog, Farage, Angela Raynor, Nicola Surgeon, Tony Blair, Theresa May and more I have the same opinion about that they aren’t‘t fit for purpose.

[keldsyke]

Lolz. If you don’t like people commenting on your stupid opinions maybe don’t post them in the first place.

No opinion is stupid, it’s an opinion that anyone is entitled to there’s no right or wrong with anyones opinion, just accept it and move on.

[drillerpie]

Corbyn and Abbott signed a letter a couple of weeks ago criticising the UK for sending defensive weapons to Ukraine, so I do think it is somewhat relevant to the discussion.

[BigFatPie]

Corbyn and Abbott signed a letter a couple of weeks ago criticising the UK for sending defensive weapons to Ukraine, so I do think it is somewhat relevant to the discussion.

I’m not sure it’s about relevance. Corbyn has been kicked out of the parliamentary Labour Party and Starmer threatened to do the same to Abbott and her cronies if they didn’t withdraw their signatures from the letter you’re talking about.

As I said above, speculating about what might have happened without seemingly being concerned about what has happened is a weird position to take. Kelsdyke probably realises this which is why he wanted to shut down any further discussion of it. But ‘what about Corbyn’ seems to be the sole defence of the Johnson government on a number of issues.

[keldsyke]

I’m not sure it’s about relevance. Corbyn has been kicked out of the parliamentary Labour Party and Starmer threatened to do the same to Abbott and her cronies if they didn’t withdraw their signatures from the letter you’re talking about.

As I said above, speculating about what might have happened without seemingly being concerned about what has happened is a weird position to take. Kelsdyke probably realises this which is why he wanted to shut down any further discussion of it

Refer to my previous comments about not being interested or at all bothered, baiting again won't work.

[TheBlackHorse]

... we should be at decision time now ... failed appeasement ... Putin the idiot, deluded madman in charge of aggressive forces now needs fronting-up. Sorry folks, we need to go to war. All the liberal chattering classes have failed with their jaw-jaw. Suppose we've had a good run since 1945 ...

[sidders]

... we should be at decision time now ... failed appeasement ... Putin the idiot, deluded madman in charge of aggressive forces now needs fronting-up. Sorry folks, we need to go to war. All the liberal chattering classes have failed with their jaw-jaw. Suppose we've had a good run since 1945 ...

All you are really saying is 'let's play the short game'. It's a very dangerous route which would be planned by a cohort of politicians who are in a nuclear bunker. You and I are not.
I prefer the long game - which the planet is uniting over. The first strike in a nuclear conflict is believed by most seasoned diplomats and leaders to come from - ultimately - the losing side. The second reactive strike will be final.

[maddogslater]

Go to war and risk nuclear destruction, you sound as crazy as putin.
Getting a bit tiresome hearing these calls for a no fly zone, which is the same outcome as going to war.

[TheBlackHorse]

Go to war and risk nuclear destruction, you sound as crazy as putin.
Getting a bit tiresome hearing these calls for a no fly zone, which is the same outcome as going to war.

... so how do you propose to deal with the lunatic dictator. Your appeasement has failed. Bullies need to be confronted or else they continue to bully. There won't be a nuclear war. There was a very recent caller who phoned in to a media channel and said that Ukraine is not worth fighting for so let Putin have his way. He was probably sitting in Islington. That kind of thinking is the same as Chamberlain & co in 1938 regarding Czechoslovakia - look where that got everyone ...