O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

£8.9 billion per year is the net contribution to the EU

The NHS is currently costing 1.6 billion per year, with some experts thinking £4 billion is the level needed to make it run efficiently.

So you could solve that and still have £4.9 billion left to make other things better.

Nah, let’s still carry on throwing money into the money pit.

[Exiletyke]

£8.9 billion per year is the net contribution to the EU

The NHS is currently costing 1.6 billion per year, with some experts thinking £4 billion is the level needed to make it run efficiently.

So you could solve that and still have £4.9 billion left to make other things better.

Nah, let’s still carry on throwing money into the money pit.

Think you need to revisit your figures Grist NHS cost £125 billion last year

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Think you need to revisit your figures Grist NHS cost £125 billion last year

Yes lol, my mistake, the point I was trying to make (badly) is that experts think that the NHS needs £4 billion more per year to make it run better, not the £1.2 billion the Government has promised.

Which is back to the original point, we give the EU more than £8 billion per year that we never get back.

Money we could spend here. Hopefully not all in London.

[ragingpup]

Interesting, predictable and ultimately depressing voting which only emphasises the huge split in the country. I think we can safely assume that all ardent remain and lhard eave passionates voted. And after everything we seem to have a 3 way split in the country, and those for these two extremes and then the other 3rd who are inbetween.

So where from here? We can assume a hard brexiter will assume control and attempt a harder brexit which again will fall on parliamentary arithmetic or go for no deal. If he tries that, what might happen? Obviously many on here think we'll follow that default but with 2/3s of the country actively against this outcome (demonstrated by voting patterns) and this reflected in parliament, I think it will be blocked. How? I'd guess that the moderate tories would join the rest in voting for a general election and then either Labour will finally declare for remain (at least they can say they tried to gain a compromise!) or a Remain Allience will form.

Agree with the general point that voters are protesting against the 2 main parties. I voted Lib Dem, inspired by Garage's gurning mug) and wife for greens. Rest of family split between these, all left Labour on this occasion. Definitely a protest led election.

[KerrAvon]

£8.9 billion per year is the net contribution to the EU

The NHS is currently costing 1.6 billion per year, with some experts thinking £4 billion is the level needed to make it run efficiently.

So you could solve that and still have £4.9 billion left to make other things better.

Nah, let’s still carry on throwing money into the money pit.

So what you are saying is that the actual UK net contribution to the EU budget is less than half that which would have been required for the £350m per week claim to have been true?

QED.

[Exiletyke]

So what you are saying is that the actual UK net contribution to the EU budget is less than half that which would have been required for the £350m per week claim to have been true?

QED.

Kerr you know full well that Grist's figures are wrong yet you will wilfully go along with them just to justify your opinion
Your skullduggeryness knows no bounds
Why am I not surprised?
& who's Zyles?

[KerrAvon]

Kerr you know full well that Grist's figures are wrong yet you will wilfully go along with them just to justify your opinion
Your skullduggeryness knows no bounds
Why am I not surprised?
& who's Zyles?

Grist's figure for the net contribution to the EU is correct, Zyles. I didn't refer to his incorrect figure for the cost of the NHS (or, indeed, the figure that is said to be needed to 'fix' the NHS - around £20bn pa)

[animallittle3]

Farage and more Brexit MEP's than Luxembourg has residents .

Johnson about to become PM with a cabinet full of brexiteers .

A referendum victory two years ago to leave the EU .

Some remainer on SKY news claiming it's not a true reflection on the UK today .

Caroline Lucas too at it as I type this , no mandate for Brexit apparently .

You couldn't make it up you really couldnt .

[great_fire]

Remainers are now saying they won these elections because Remain parties won a bigger share of the vote, counting Labour as a Remain party even though they didn't stand as one on Thursday!

These people must be the most dishonest, duplicitous people in the world.

[KerrAvon]

Remainers are now saying they won these elections because Remain parties won a bigger share of the vote, counting Labour as a Remain party even though they didn't stand as one on Thursday!

These people must be the most dishonest, duplicitous people in the world.

You don't have to add the Labour vote in to reach a position where Remain supporting parties did better than Leave supporting parties. As it stands at the moment, the leave supporting parties (Brexit and UKIP) took 34.9% of the vote whilst Remain supporting parties (Lib Dem, Green, SNP, Plaid Cymru and Change UK) collectively took 40.3%.

There was no seismic shift in support of the Brexit Party – much of their support was made up from the collapse of UKIP and from disaffected Tories.

In reality, all that happened in the election was that the British public demonstrated that they are as split and polarised in their views as Parliament.