O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[applepie2]

What a shambles.

That’s what comes of having a voting system at general elections which allows a minority to elect a party with a majority of MPs, which can then do what it likes for five years. And what the Conservative and Unionist Party likes is to change to a leader elected by less than 200,000 people who don’t represent the country, who can then ignore the manifesto she was elected on.

In short, it’s a shambles.

[drillerpie]

What is happening is wrong on so many levels.

The Conservatives got a large majority for the policies Boris and Cummings set out, which included a high level of public spending on infrastructure, particularly in traditionally Labour-voting areas.

You can argue about whether that was promised in good faith or not, but it's not really the point. Truss has no mandate whatsoever to do what she is doing.

That's just the ethical problem. There's also the fact that it is balls-out, bat**** mental from an economics perspective. We've just restarted QE with inflation at 9% (officially, it's really probably more), but as GranthamPie pointed out they didn't have much choice because if they didnt, people's pension funds would've gone under by the close of business today.

And they've thrown the pound off a cliff at a time when the UK is already paying the highest prices we can remember for natural resources priced in US dollars. I can't believe what I'm seeing.

[SwalePie]

What is happening is wrong on so many levels.

The Conservatives got a large majority for the policies Boris and Cummings set out, which included a high level of public spending on infrastructure, particularly in traditionally Labour-voting areas.

You can argue about whether that was promised in good faith or not, but it's not really the point. Truss has no mandate whatsoever to do what she is doing.

That's just the ethical problem. There's also the fact that it is balls-out, bat**** mental from an economics perspective. We've just restarted QE with inflation at 9% (officially, it's really probably more), but as GranthamPie pointed out they didn't have much choice because if they didnt, people's pension funds would've gone under by the close of business today.

And they've thrown the pound off a cliff at a time when the UK is already paying the highest prices we can remember for natural resources priced in US dollars. I can't believe what I'm seeing.

It is gobsmackingly incompetent so far. What's even more staggering is how far we've plunged in so short a time.

[magpie_mania]

It is gobsmackingly incompetent so far. What's even more staggering is how far we've plunged in so short a time.

And the Govt are still saying they have the right plan.

No plan B (now where have I heard that before?!)

[Elite_Pie]

The Conservatives got a large majority for the policies Boris and Cummings set out, which included a high level of public spending on infrastructure, particularly in traditionally Labour-voting areas.

I think the large majority had very little to do with policies. It was won by a combination of a con man saying he would “get Brexit done”, offering a host of false promises, and piss weak opposition.

[magpie_mania]

I think the large majority had very little to do with policies. It was won by a combination of a con man saying he would “get Brexit done”, offering a host of false promises, and piss weak opposition.

It was mainly won imo on Brexit. Add to that some empty promises to the red wall seats and there was only going to be one winner.

Pretty scary stuff to hear about the possibility of pension schemes going belly-up today, but Truss and Kwarseng seem to have no shame.

[magpie_mania]

It was mainly won imo on Brexit. Add to that some empty promises to the red wall seats and there was only going to be one winner.

Pretty scary stuff to hear about the possibility of pension schemes going belly-up today, but Truss and Kwarseng seem to have no shame.

Kwarteng even.

[BigFatPie]

Based on their performances on the hustings the Tory membership were certifiably insane to elect Truss instead of Sunak. I’m no fan of his, but he was entirely correct in what he predicted would happen if Truss implemented the policies she was proposing. I’m pleased from a Labour point of view they’ve elected another idiot, but not to the extent where I want to see people lose their houses.

If another PM is forced to quit, the Tories have completely lost their mandate to govern.

[macse15]

Based on their performances on the hustings the Tory membership were certifiably insane to elect Truss instead of Sunak. I’m no fan of his, but he was entirely correct in what he predicted would happen if Truss implemented the policies she was proposing. I’m pleased from a Labour point of view they’ve elected another idiot, but not to the extent where I want to see people lose their houses.

If another PM is forced to quit, the Tories have completely lost their mandate to govern.

And some Lenders are now withdrawing mortgage offers AFTER buyers have exchanged contracts, leaving them almost certainly in breach of contract

[Ex_Southwell_Magpie]

Based on their performances on the hustings the Tory membership were certifiably insane to elect Truss instead of Sunak.

You should also add that the Tory MPs were justifiably thick in putting these two up for the vote, when they eliminated more publicly popular choices.

Labour haven't done or had to do anything to sway voters, they've just pottered along highlighting the Tory mess.