NL board to decide early next week

[MAD_MAGPIE]

The outcome of the National League season will be shaped by the English Football League, with no decision made until next week at the earliest.

It follows a board meeting on Tuesday, during which a range of views were put forward by 65 of the 68 clubs that make up its three divisions.

The National League is keen to keep its two promotion places into the EFL.

Meanwhile, a number of clubs do not wish to give up on the possibility of playing the play-offs.

The National League, which brought its season to an early conclusion on 22 April, is unable to make a clear decision until they see what the EFL decides.

For instance, BBC Sport understands if the EFL does not complete its season then Stevenage are likely to avoid relegation, with only one team coming up from the National League.

However, the National League board has not yet ruled out the possibility of expunging all results and following the same pattern as steps three to seven of the non-league system.

As it stands, all matches have to be played before 1 June unless the National League seeks an extension from the FA Council.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52550181

I think the last 3 paragraphs are the most interesting.

The closer it gets to the dates of player contracts expiring at the end of June in the EFL the more I think that Leagues One and Two will follow the same path as the National League and their remaining games will be cancelled.

Then it will be a case of deciding promotion, playoffs and whether any relegations happen which it seems unlikely that teams will be relegated.

The National league teams that get promoted to league two is at the mercy of what the EFL decide to do.

It also seems more and more probable that Stevenage could get a reprieve as they are currently members of the football league.

If the National League do decide to expunge all this seasons results then I guess we are back to whether the EFL invite anyone to make up the numbers.

If 3 go up from the championship, league one and league two and no relegations then you get;

Premier League = 23 teams
Championship = 24 teams
League One = 23 teams
League Two = 21 teams

That makes 91 clubs. So it just needs one more to replace Bury to make the 92 but it’s a place in League Two as opposed to League One.

So that’s when you get into the realms of which team will it be from the National League and how will it be determined?

After all this and once all those players out of contract are off the clubs books it’s then what happens to clubs in the lower leagues. Do they get mothballed until next year?

[Chinawhite1000]

The closer it gets to the dates of player contracts expiring at the end of June in the EFL the more I think that Leagues One and Two will follow the same path as the National League and their remaining games will be cancelled.

Then it will be a case of deciding promotion, playoffs and whether any relegations happen which it seems unlikely that teams will be relegated.

The National league teams that get promoted to league two is at the mercy of what the EFL decide to do.

It also seems more and more probable that Stevenage could get a reprieve as they are currently members of the football league.

If the National League do decide to expunge all this seasons results then I guess we are back to whether the EFL invite anyone to make up the numbers.

If 3 go up from the championship, league one and league two and no relegations then you get;

Premier League = 23 teams
Championship = 24 teams
League One = 23 teams
League Two = 21 teams

That makes 91 clubs. So it just needs one more to replace Bury to make the 92 but it’s a place in League Two as opposed to League One.

So that’s when you get into the realms of which team will it be from the National League and how will it be determined?

After all this and once all those players out of contract are off the clubs books it’s then what happens to clubs in the lower leagues. Do they get mothballed until next year?

3 up to the PL makes no sense at all, leaving it and div 1 with 23 teams is non-sensible.

IF the PL is increased in size surely it would end up as either;-

Premier League = 22 teams
Championship = 24 teams
League One = 24 teams
League Two = 22 teams

or

Premier League = 22 teams
Championship = 24 teams
League One = 24 teams
League Two = 24 teams

The EFL is an organisation with nominally 72 clubs - which the 2nd option still gives them - and would mean 3 NL teams including Notts getting promoted (although as several EFL clubs are likely to go bust that might end up either back to 22 clubs in L2 or Yeovil and others end up in the EFL too....)

[legs77]

Players contracts are up in June but they still get paid all of July if they dont get another club.

The league wants the FA Cup on 8th August so I think the EFL are covered my guess is the championship may play out games but league one/two wont go straight to play offs.

[Notts78]

Players contracts are up in June but they still get paid all of July if they dont get another club.

The league wants the FA Cup on 8th August so I think the EFL are covered my guess is the championship may play out games but league one/two wont go straight to play offs.

Bundesliga has been given the go ahead to resume. This is potentially good news for us as you would expect the Prem and Championship to follow suit meaning that the National League will be forced to make a decision which I expect to include the play offs being played.

[legs77]

Bundesliga has been given the go ahead to resume. This is potentially good news for us as you would expect the Prem and Championship to follow suit meaning that the National League will be forced to make a decision which I expect to include the play offs being played.

It is great news and you can always rely on the Germans to just crack on with things with little fuss.

Compare to our country and players refusing to donate money whilst lots of them have.

I hope if football does return Neville isnt on Sky he has been leading a one man campaign not to start football and it was fun to watch the Palace chairman handing his ar*e to him.

[navypie]

Bundesliga has been given the go ahead to resume. This is potentially good news for us as you would expect the Prem and Championship to follow suit meaning that the National League will be forced to make a decision which I expect to include the play offs being played.

I wouldn't get yer hopes up. If someone blows their nose within half a mile of Old Trafford those namby fcukers will retreat into their ivory towers.

[Notts78]

I wouldn't get yer hopes up. If someone blows their nose within half a mile of Old Trafford those namby fcukers will retreat into their ivory towers.

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You should probably have used the London Stadium as your example given Man Utd will definitely 100% be wanting to get the season re-started in order to try and get a Champions League place.

[MAD_MAGPIE]

3 up to the PL makes no sense at all, leaving it and div 1 with 23 teams is non-sensible.

IF the PL is increased in size surely it would end up as either;-

Premier League = 22 teams
Championship = 24 teams
League One = 24 teams
League Two = 22 teams

or

Premier League = 22 teams
Championship = 24 teams
League One = 24 teams
League Two = 24 teams

The EFL is an organisation with nominally 72 clubs - which the 2nd option still gives them - and would mean 3 NL teams including Notts getting promoted (although as several EFL clubs are likely to go bust that might end up either back to 22 clubs in L2 or Yeovil and others end up in the EFL too....)

I got the three up from the Championship scenario from the Rick Parry wants three up from Championship thread.

It might not make sense to you but I can’t see how the EFL and the affected championship clubs in the playoffs such as Fulham, Brentford, Nottm Forest and Preston and others knocking on the door of the playoffs would roll over and stomach loosing the chance of the most lucrative promotion in English Football. We know all too well our close neighbours have been trying and failing for 20 years to get back to the premier league.

That is why there will be the demand for the championship season to finish and the playoffs be completed at that level even if it’s behind closed doors. Its worth so much financially to those clubs in contention.

It would leave the EFL with only 68 teams due to Bury being lost, but the only other way to get back to the 72 if no teams are going to be relegated from the premier league is to promote four from League Two to League One as normal which would get that league back to 24 teams but also mean League One and League Two playoffs could still happen.

However this method would only leave 20 clubs in league two. So essentially four National League clubs would need to be promoted or invited to make up the numbers

[Chinawhite1000]

Taken from the One football Forum;- League 2 Forum;-

Matt Slater, a journalist for the Athletic, has published a story this morning saying that the League 1 and League 2 seasons are set to be abandoned within the next few days. For now, the Premier League and Championship will continue. But I assume the National League are also about to act themselves. A vote for L1 and L2 clubs will take place to decide which system will be used, but a weighted PPG looks set to be the method chosen.

https://theathletic.com/1800891/2020...-ppg-coventry/ Those of you who have a sub with the Athletic can read up on things there.

In short

- Leagues more than likely to be decided on a weighted PPG system which evens out home and away games remaining as fair as they possibly can. Playoffs are to be cancelled for this year and this year only.
- Coventry, Rotherham and Oxford (current Top 3 in order) will be promoted to the Championship (The fume from Andy Pilley, DMAC, Portsmouth and Sunderland fans on Twitter is going to be quite something)
- Tranmere, Southend and Bolton to be relegated to League Two (I think Palios will accept relegation but watch Ron Martin try and do a lawsuit to try and keep Southend in League One despite them being dead and buried)
- Swindon to be Champions of League Two, Crewe 2nd, Plymouth 3rd but Cheltenham to leapfrog Exeter into 4th on PPG which means they'll be promoted and the Grecians will unfortunately miss out.
- Stevenage to finish bottom of League Two and are very likely to be relegated to the National League unless the National League null and void their season. If Stevenage go down, I believe Phil Wallace will accept it even though Macclesfield have just had a signfiicant points deduction themselves.
- Null and void in the PL and EFL appears to have receded significantly due to it favouring the worst performing sides coupled with the legal and financial risks involved (The leagues may be liable to pay Sky back significant monies owed as per the agreement) and it's not an option that will be brought to the table.

With regard to non league. This isn't mentioned in the article, but at a guess...

- If NL isn't null and voided, it looks likely that Barrow and Harrogate will be promoted to League Two next season. Again, Notts County fans will be seething at this, but they'll be fighting a losing battle if the EFL has decided to go down the PPG route with the NL wishing to follow it.
- Its uncertain what will happen in the context of relegation but it's wise to assume that, should the season not be null and voided, Chorley, Fylde and Maidenhead will be relegated with Wealdstone, Kings Lynn, York and Havant and Waterlooville promoted. This would leave the NLS and NLN with 22 and 21 clubs respectively, which means they may promote each top placed side and more than likely the best 2nd placed team from Step 3 after all to make up the numbers for their impending expansion to 24 teams each.

Interesting to see what will lie ahead as a result of this when it's formally announced. But Slater, a Southend fan himself, is a very credible source and I do believe that this will occur next week...

[BigFatPie]

Ooh York’s a nice day out.