O/T Disgrace Cummings

[ragingpup]

He's plainly on a wind up Pup. A bit of a sick one tho. He would defend the actions of this moron if he had gone round eating grandmothers...What would he have said on here if you or Rolymiller had admitted to doing exactly the same thing in the same circumstances? Hmm...

Don't think he is Roly. I would agree with not hanging Cummings out to dry for choosing to take the journey alone. I find it hard to believe that, as a multi millionaire government leader, he felt he had no other child care option but to risk driving up North, but as we weren't there at the time of those conversations between him and his wife, and can't demonstrate that he absolutely had no other options, I don't think that decision is sackable, even if it was dubious. But the new info about his drive around a local beauty spot, breaking lockdown for no justifiable reason, that by his own admission, he may not have been fit to drive and therefore endangering others (im sure Kerr will again argue that this was a small risk!) and in any case, he could hire another driver to drive back down south, I think he may have just sacked himself. If not, I dont think Johnson has a choice with this new information.

This them leads to the question that if Johnson already knew Cummings had broken lockdown a 2nd time, what does that say about Johnson's judgement in backing him yesterday??

[animallittle3]

It'll unravel alright.

All the usual tory MPs defending the undefendable as well. What does that tell you about this lot?

Shyte houses from top to bottom and this is only the tip of the iceberg...

Same as I said earlier in the thread Roly , it's totally fine if they keep this idiot on , the political damage is done now whether he stays or goes .

The so called people's PM has unraveled himself to be nothing of the sort .

They could have easily nipped this one in the bud 2 days ago and gained some momentum back from many of the electorate who were starting to question how well they were handling the pandemic .

Those who voted Tory for the first time last December won't be impressed , proper rubbed their noses in it to protect the career of one of their own .

The new Tory voters possibly lent them their vote last December and then looked to see how that played out during this term .

Within 6 months they have had the answer in my opinion .

[rolymiller]

Same as I said earlier in the thread Roly , it's totally fine if they keep this idiot on , the political damage is done now whether he stays or goes .

The so called people's PM has unraveled himself to be nothing of the sort .

They could have easily nipped this one in the bud 2 days ago and gained some momentum back from many of the electorate who were starting to question how well they were handling the pandemic .

Those who voted Tory for the first time last December won't be impressed , proper rubbed their noses in it to protect the career of one of their own .

The new Tory voters possibly lent them their vote last December and then looked to see how that played out during this term .

Within 6 months they have had the answer in my opinion .

Always maintained the same. Worrever anyone thinks of Labour and their shortcomings it is folly to trust the tories. They are resorting to form now and it wont get better.Labour might be shyte houses to some but the tories will always be shyte houses x 100. They are not some sort of credible alternative to Labour despite what some may think.

Even on millersmad you can see that many first time tory voters are already getting pissed off with them and rightly so.

Wait till they balls up Brexit then the sh it will really hit the fan...

[great_fire]

Same as I said earlier in the thread Roly , it's totally fine if they keep this idiot on , the political damage is done now whether he stays or goes .

The so called people's PM has unraveled himself to be nothing of the sort .

They could have easily nipped this one in the bud 2 days ago and gained some momentum back from many of the electorate who were starting to question how well they were handling the pandemic .

Those who voted Tory for the first time last December won't be impressed , proper rubbed their noses in it to protect the career of one of their own .

The new Tory voters possibly lent them their vote last December and then looked to see how that played out during this term .

Within 6 months they have had the answer in my opinion .

Have you spoken to anyone else about this?

Everyone I've spoken to said the media were making a mountain out of a molehill.

IMO the media is out of touch with the public again like they were with Brexit.

[animallittle3]

I know its your bigger picture Animal from our debates on the Brexit threads. Never thought it would unravel this quick.

Well history tells you that anybody they enter in to a partnership with to help them out nearly always end up getting shyte on .

From the Notts Miners , Lib Dems and SNP in relatively modern times .

[flourbasher]

I do agree with D Cummings that there's been confusion over the last few days.
But neither Dom or Boz have cleared this up in today's briefings.

So it would be helpful if they could clarify which members of society these rules don't apply.
Is it just his aides or does it include others

[mygiddypant]

Mary : Dom?

Dom: Yes, my sweet?

Mary: It's my birthday today. Have you anything special planned?

Dom: Well, no. Being lock downed in Durham has put the kibosh on everything.

Mary: I'd quite like to take a look at Barnard Castle while we are here. Could we drive there to test your eyes?

Dom: Now why didn't I think of that?.....

(Allegedly)

[John2]

I feel like I have wandered into a weird game of crap posts Top Trumps where you have just played the top scoring 'Desperation' card to take the game from John.

Oh come on, I'm not really defending the media distancing, I said it's wrong, I'm saying we shouldn't hold the press to the same standard of account as those who make our laws and then violate them, surely that's not controversial?

[KerrAvon]

Oh come on, I'm not really defending the media distancing, I said it's wrong, I'm saying we shouldn't hold the press to the same standard of account as those who make our laws and then violate them, surely that's not controversial?

You were suggesting that the reporters were performing an important job, which on examination appears to be allowing you to watch a media scrum and convince yourself that something that you wanted to believe was true. That is a pretty powerful card in the Top Trump crap post deck.

Surely the important argument here is that everyone is equal under the law and Covic guidance? You seem to have decided that you will tolerate lower standards from the media than from people who are on the current hate list for Labour Party members.

[Exiletyke]

You were suggesting that the reporters were performing an important job, which on examination appears to be allowing you to watch a media scrum and convince yourself that something that you wanted to believe was true. That is a pretty powerful card in the Top Trump crap post deck.

Surely the important argument here is that everyone is equal under the law and Covic guidance? You seem to have decided that you will tolerate lower standards from the media than from people who are on the current hate list for Labour Party members.

I think you'll find it's far far more than Labour Party members who have expressed their feelings re Cummings but as usual you cannot resist referring in hate terms to the Labour Party It's in your genes
Do you believe Cummings explanation on his visit to Barnard Castle to "test his eyesight"
I hope the press continue digging to expose the truth This media you refer to will include all shades of political persusion but if we go on press bias the ratio will be about 70%/30% right wing
You obviously watched the "scrum" but of course you can watch it but tell others they are at fault for doing so