Fans' Forum [September 2021]

[Elite_Pie]

I don't know if it's just me, but it seemed that we had less injuries. We certainly didn't seem to get so many niggly strains etc - they probably just carried on! In my first season (71/72) I could almost name the team every week.

Defence was:
Brindley - 41 games
Needham - 32 games
Stubbs - 43 games
Worthington - 46 games

In addition,
Bradd - 46 games
Jones 44 games (12 as sub)
Masson - 45 games
Nixon - 46 games (3 as sub)
Brown - 43 games (keeper)

I doubt we will get 8 players who average over 44 games each now.

Remember that on top of those games, Jimmy Sirrel would play full scale games in training every week (and there were reserve games in the league too).

In 70/71 when we won the league, 8 players played more than 40 games and another 3 played 37 each.

We used 17 players all season and 4 of them played 14 games between them.

And none of those players were ever rested because they were tired!

[keldsyke]

Really, comparing taking a free kick with flying a plane.

The point is with any industry / sport / life you have to amass experience and practice to get to the very top. Unfortunately we now live in a society where people want it now without putting any effort into getting where they want to get / or what they want to have. To get to the very top in any sport/ industry means going beyond 9 - 5 (or 10 - 12 if you’re a footballer)

But I think the point you are missing is that the performances are on a knife edge and results could go either way, and hopefully like you say we will get 3 points today (personally I think we have a better chance with only playing one from Roberts or Rodrgues from the start)

[Killerkline]

The point is with any industry / sport / life you have to amass experience and practice to get to the very top. Unfortunately we now live in a society where people want it now without putting any effort into getting where they want to get / or what they want to have. To get to the very top in any sport/ industry means going beyond 9 - 5 (or 10 - 12 if you’re a footballer)

I definitely going after this!

How have we gone from Burchnall making a suggestion to Ruben, to people wanting success without putting the time and effort in.

The irony of the above is, Notts, Owners, Burchnall etc are putting in the hard yards to achieve sustainable success and not looking for a quick fix.

[the_anticlough]

I definitely going after this!

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Man, that might be a good idea.
It moved on to a wider discussion on excellence in sports and wider than that..

It doesn't all have to be so specific, and you don't have to jump to IB's defence and defend his honour each time a fellow Notts fan raises a point or question
The only agendas on here are the club's success.

[Killerkline]

Man, that might be a good idea.
It moved on to a wider discussion on excellence in sports and wider than that..

It doesn't all have to be so specific, and you don't have to jump to IB's defence and defend his honour each time a fellow Notts fan raises a point or question
The only agendas on here are the club's success.

Why? Because I disagree with your comments?

In your mind it may have moved on, the main discussion stemmed from Burchnall giving some advice to Ruben to then comments re Notts recruitment not being good enough, issues with the owners. So, from the above what is not related to Notts? These are the points I was responding too.

In terms of jumping to IB’s defence. I’m actually defending Notts approach of which IB is integral part.

[the_anticlough]

Why? Because I disagree with your comments?
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Why? Because you're saying 'I'm staying off here' "I'm definitely going' and flouncing off when your efforts to police the board and keep things 'positive' as YOU see it fail miserably, and instead of squashing comment just leads to more and more comments (guess that's a good thing).

Anyway the original topic seems like a 1st World Problem after today's debacle. Everyone's got more to think about than skills practice.

[Elite_Pie]

Why? Because you're saying 'I'm staying off here' "I'm definitely going' and flouncing off when your efforts to police the board and keep things 'positive' as YOU see it fail miserably, and instead of squashing comment just leads to more and more comments (guess that's a good thing).

It's funny how a few negative comments have been construed as being down to 'something in the water', but when they come home to roost the response is rather 'diluted'!

[Killerkline]

Why? Because you're saying 'I'm staying off here' "I'm definitely going' and flouncing off when your efforts to police the board and keep things 'positive' as YOU see it fail miserably, and instead of squashing comment just leads to more and more comments (guess that's a good thing).

Anyway the original topic seems like a 1st World Problem after today's debacle. Everyone's got more to think about than skills practice.

Few corrections;

- I didn’t suggest I was staying off here
- never tried to police the board
- didn’t flounce off

But, I will remain positive.

[laddo]

The irony of the above is, Notts, Owners, Burchnall etc are putting in the hard yards to achieve sustainable success and not looking for a quick fix.

He's got a point, the current setup is going against the grain of modern society.

Patience and a plan. The question is does the fanbase as a whole have the patience, and does it trust in the longer term plan?

[keldsyke]

I definitely going after this!

How have we gone from Burchnall making a suggestion to Ruben, to people wanting success without putting the time and effort in.

The irony of the above is, Notts, Owners, Burchnall etc are putting in the hard yards to achieve sustainable success and not looking for a quick fix.

You are right in your last paragraph about sustainable success, as someone working behind the scenes in professional sport it takes time to implement and change things, it’s almost like trying to do a 180 degrees turn with an oil tanker it’s not instant and success usually takes time. At different levels of sport there are different approaches to get success based on your opponents skills and abilities and you have to adjust your plan to suit the situation. My point is that the players brought in on watching (not hearsay or opinions from others who haven’t seen them) is that I’m not convinced they have the skill sets or abilities to perform in a set system that is used further up the football pyramid with players of more ability, hence my pulling up IB on his it’s only 11 v 11 comment.